The definitive suspension thread

[shane@mbtech]

That looked more like cold Cups to me LOL.

It was like that all day mike. Snappy, twitchy, shocks were not valved correct and I know others have tried and let nitron tinker but still not great.
I struggled to get 2 mins at oulton, whereas in my old cls with club sport I hit 1.56 with consistent 1.57 lap after lap. On a048 tyres too which are not as good as the cups.

The 3 way nitron will undoubtably be better but shimmy didn't like them either.

My vote is KW or going by others opinion I hold in high regard the intrax :supz:

[Mike RT4]

It was like that all day mike. Snappy, twitchy, shocks were not valved correct and I know others have tried and let nitron tinker but still not great.
I struggled to get 2 mins at oulton, whereas in my old cls with club sport I hit 1.56 with consistent 1.57 lap after lap. On a048 tyres too which are not as good as the cups.

The 3 way nitron will undoubtably be better but shimmy didn't like them either.

My vote is KW or going by others opinion I hold in high regard the intrax :supz:

I'm sure the Intrax would be fractionally better than the KWs, but I'd forsake a few seconds for the "fit and forget" of the KWs that everyone seems to report .

[shane@mbtech]

I'm sure the Intrax would be fractionally better than the KWs, but I'd forsake a few seconds for the "fit and forget" of the KWs that everyone seems to report .

So would I

I'm ordering a couple of sets of KW as soon as they're back, business partner is going clubsport route on his m3. If mine was still on standard stuff I'd be ordering the KW too.

[shane@mbtech]

That was just the last vid on my channel to enable you to find the rest. There are plenty of the 300 circuit:

Here is one being held up by a standard GTR and 997 GT3 RS (both get in the way on the corners where the Escort excels, as with 4 wheel drive as soon as you turn in, you can use full power to drive out of the corners faster than anything 2wd, as all 505lb ft can be utilised with no traction issues - and it weighs the same as a CSL). The only place that I suspect a well driven CSL being faster is round Corum and the corners at the end of the straights, where it is very difficult to judge the amount of retardation required due to the speed these are approached at (so I always end up scrubbing off too much - discretion being the better part of valour and all that LOL) Obviously following another car, this wouldn't be an issue, as the Escort has better brakes than a CSL and the 4 wheel drive makes it easier to avoid triggering the ABS when braking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4onG...e_gdata_player

Looks like you only accelerate in straight lines mike:smt017:blalalala::blalalala:

[shimmy]

Looks like you only accelerate in straight lines mike:smt017:blalalala::blalalala:

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[shimmy]

I have no idea, as I don't time myself and even if you check out videos to get times, it's always with other cars on circuit holding you up.

If you really that bothered, you can time some of my You Tube vids, but like I said - they're with traffic, so not really representative. However, you will get an idea of the performance in relation to other cars on the circuit.

You can use this as a link to my channel - knock yourself out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7aweADw2ds&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I'd much rather go up against a well driven CSL, that way there can be no excuses on either counts .

Cheers, will do. I've seen some high bhp GTr, Skyline, Cossie at Snett and tbh the main Area where time is gained is Esses-Bomb hole and Riches.

[billyboysm3]

In the vidal sassoon mean machine with the rooooooffff down.

Anything under 2min 13 in a M3 is quick. Im sure some geezer off here put a 2.10 lap in but had the cameras around the wrong way. Cant remember his username though, think he has a dodgy surname

[billyboysm3]

Jom coilovers are the tits!

[Mike RT4]

Looks like you only accelerate in straight lines mike:smt017:blalalala::blalalala:

That's because there is usually something holding me up in the corners and you're only allowed to overtake on the straights :blalalala:

[shimmy]

That's because there is usually something holding me up in the corners and you're only allowed to overtake on the straights :blalalala:

Don't worry, Lawsy usually ignores the corners and heads directly across the grass to the next straight :whistle:

[cslsuperfan]

Escort Cosworth

Great video Mike

GTR & GT3 tailing was fab...awesome power from your ford

Let us all know when you're going to Snett with the forum

[shimmy]

I remember an R34 Skyline at Snett with a billion bhp that overtook me at the start of the old back straight, shot past me by 100m and I caught him by the time we got to the exit of the Esses (I nearly drove up Curly style inside him at the first left at the end of e back straight)

[shane@mbtech]

Don't worry, Lawsy usually ignores the corners and heads directly across the grass to the next straight :whistle:

Is there grass up top at eau rouge?

[AlexGTT]

In the vidal sassoon mean machine with the rooooooffff down.

Anything under 2min 13 in a M3 is quick. Im sure some geezer off here put a 2.10 lap in but had the cameras around the wrong way. Cant remember his username though, think he has a dodgy surname

Yeah, I think I know that knob. Fookin' show off. :wink:

Looking at that vid, I know who my money is on.

[8ARF]

I hope you guys don't mind me giving my two penneth on this issue.
Although my car is a humdrum e46 m3 and not a knicker elastic snapping CSL I too have had a poor experience with the Nitron 1k2 kit. I never felt that the kit had been specifically developed for my car with a way too harsh a ride. it seemed as if the kit was all about mega stiff spring rates and poor damping. I didn't really pay too much attention of the actual rates unfortunately.
I also had a niggling thought that if I started to have issues with the dreaded rear subframe issue, a warranty claim would probably be thrown out due to the non original suspension and with the ride being so harsh I felt that it would only be doing damage to the underside of the car.

I didn't consider anything for the Nitron's replacement other than the AC Schnitzer Racing kit. This, in my opinion IS the best of both worlds with a nice compromise of a (still firm) ride with a nice damping action which feels lightyears better than the Nitrons on the road with a nice predictable attitude out on track.
Also worth considering was the fact that IF in the event of having a problem with the subframe mounts etc, any warranty claim would be looked upon maybe a bit more favourable with having what is essentially a factory approved modification!

As I write, the ACS kit has been on the car for around 18months and now I am looking into enhancing it still further with some Eibach ARB's, poly bushings and Eibach rear control arms.
My question (the reason i'm here actually), does anyone have any recommendations of nice, good value adjustable top mounts?

TMS and Ground Control seem to be the main options in the states but I would appreciate some feedback from someone over here :wink:

I hope my "two penneth" has been of some use

Ian.