Michelin Cup 2 (two)

[alexk]

Lap of Croft on said tyres.

https://youtu.be/ps6qksDpPUc

So what is the outcome ?
Laptime of cup 2 vs original cup ?

[Clubber]

Looked like they were not so grippy. Was that the case ?

[knoxville]

Lap of Croft on said tyres.

https://youtu.be/ps6qksDpPUc

[alexk]

Spoke to Martin today and decided that the next set will be again the original Cup.

[billyboysm3]

Decided to sell my cup2 today. Never used, going cage and slicks route as didn't fancy being disappointed.

[Clubber]

As I said earlier in this thread, many people prefer the Cup1 over cup2 on various type of cars, rwd,awd etc. but some like the Cup2 more too so its a mixed reaction but there is no doubt or mixed comment anyone whom used Trofeo R, everyone says its the quickest and best semi slick you can buy today. Which will be my next set of track tires.

[cslsuperfan]

Guys I can do this testing for you if you sponsor me a set

I see everyone's scared to pull the trigger on a set being afraid to have less performant tyres.

Alex

I can say with considerable confidence I am not scared in the slightest of exceeding the performance envelope of old school cups. If I can muster 70% I'd be overjoyed.

I am more likely to run a marathon in 2 hours!!

[alexk]

Guys I can do this testing for you if you sponsor me a set

I see everyone's scared to pull the trigger on a set being afraid to have less performant tyres.

[Mike R]

On a serious note make sure they put your car on a transporter back to yours.

It's being kept inside their workshop - I expressly asked for this after what you told me.

[billyboysm3]

On a serious note make sure they put your car on a transporter back to yours.

[billyboysm3]

At this point, that may not happen until next year, as I received notification from Sycamore BMW today that BMW Gmbh have rejected the latest batch of CSL cams, so I have no idea when they are coming .

JOKE!!!!!!

Dirty perv john has some cups I can borrow.

[Mike R]

Someone can borrow my square set up 265 35 18's cup 2's

or Mike could put them on his CSL at Snetterton, back to back

At this point, that may not happen until next year, as I received notification from Sycamore BMW today that BMW Gmbh have rejected the latest batch of CSL cams, so I have no idea when they are coming .

[billyboysm3]

Someone can borrow my square set up 265 35 18's cup 2's

or Mike could put them on his CSL at Snetterton, back to back

[Trawler]

As a chassis engineer, and given discussions I've had with the Michelin tyre engineers and the data I've seen, I love the pure subjective completely non scientific speculating conclusions.

As yet nobody has done a proper back to back to test of laptime, wear etc. etc. on a CSL, of the right spec of tyre, and so on.

So until they have all you can do is use the data that does exist to try to suggest what the result might be.

I doubt that will ever happen. I'm not good enough to have consistent lap times let alone set times on different tyres. What I can judge is how the car feels/behaves. Has anyone done a comparison of times using run flats? Anyone that has driven on run flats can tell the difference without a stop watch. I'm no track day warrior but prefer the feel of the old cups

[Trawler]

I doubt they even got heat into them.

Yes, even if the temp was 28 deg C. One of the hottest days of the year.