Michelin Cup 2 (two)

[lee]

So is that the end of the cup 1 as we know it they are going over to the cup 2 now

Will have to stock up on cups of that's the case

[Mike R]

Do not bother with cup 2, I went out in grants caged m3 at snetterton
Yesterday after going in johns m3 on original cups.

Unless you like going sideways the cup2 grip just isn't there after a few laps.

He was losing the back end round riches, bomb hole and coram.

I'd say, better than a road tyre but way off original cups if you want to push the car.

If your after lap times your need dunlops or try to see if the new pirellis are any good. I know Lawsy is trying these in a couple or weeks.

Told you .

[billyboysm3]

Do not bother with cup 2, I went out in grants caged m3 at snetterton
Yesterday after going in johns m3 on original cups.

Unless you like going sideways the cup2 grip just isn't there after a few laps.

He was losing the back end round riches, bomb hole and coram.

I'd say, better than a road tyre but way off original cups if you want to push the car.

If your after lap times your need dunlops or try to see if the new pirellis are any good. I know Lawsy is trying these in a couple or weeks.

[shimmy]

No but by Spa Time next year we should get some Cup2 and Dunlops between us and do back to back tests

[alexk]

Does anyone have any laptimes / comparison yet ?

[shane@mbtech]

Yeah on pork so not to compare too directly and take things into account like chassis/suspension. Reckon that's how most would find them on e46 so would be reasonable if you were ok leaving the last 0.1s on the table in exchange for better wet. Don't know but think they'd last ok. Did Spa/Zolder and it was hot. As I said be real interesting same day comparison.

I smashed stickys gt3 around Anglesey on 888 and gripped stayed. On e46 they go like mush after 2 laps. Just purely down to car design and weight distribution

Off topic, you still loving the beastie ?

[shane@mbtech]

It would be good if knoxville would tell us his laptimes with cup and cup 2.

He's not used cups Alex

[alexk]

It would be good if knoxville would tell us his laptimes with cup and cup 2.

[3wheels3]

Yeah on pork so not to compare too directly and take things into account like chassis/suspension. Reckon that's how most would find them on e46 so would be reasonable if you were ok leaving the last 0.1s on the table in exchange for better wet. Don't know but think they'd last ok. Did Spa/Zolder and it was hot. As I said be real interesting same day comparison.

[shane@mbtech]

With very limited experience (& ability!) I'd say they take bit longer to get up to temp, bit more progressive and may be not as quite as grippy. But seemed to last ok and reportedly better in wet but I haven't pushed them in wet as yet. I'd guess they're well ahead of Cup+ though. Be interesting to see same day comparison.

You talking about the pork wheels?

If so it's hard to compare to e46, 888 on e46 were crap, but they worked great with the 3ft wide rear tyre on the 996 gt3 sticky had:beer:

[billyboysm3]

Nice Video Gav and well driven.

So if Cup2 are 2 seconds quicker than Cup+ maybe cup1 are 2 seconds quicker than Cup2.

Looks like they allow plenty of fun.

Actually WTF do I know, gone for slicks.

[Mike R]

A friend has also now tested them and his views are they are good for a very limited window (like the Toyo R888s), in that they go off very quickly. Once they get too hot, grip is much reduced (as per Gav's vid). They don't come back again until allowed to cool off. So although they may be a better road tyre than the original Cups, they are a much worse track tyre.

[3wheels3]

With very limited experience (& ability!) I'd say they take bit longer to get up to temp, bit more progressive and may be not as quite as grippy. But seemed to last ok and reportedly better in wet but I haven't pushed them in wet as yet. I'd guess they're well ahead of Cup+ though. Be interesting to see same day comparison.

[shane@mbtech]

So what is the outcome ?
Laptime of cup 2 vs original cup ?

Gav looked more out of control on the cup 2, than my e92 did on cup + at the same circuit

I know Gav can drive too, so definitely cup 2 not up to the task.

[Trawler]

For all you non track warriors I'm finding the cup 2s fine on the road. Very very loud on certain roads. All dry miles to date (approx 1100 miles)