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    Rear BBK, do I really need it ?

    Hey guys,

    Since we are on a winter break for track days, I was planning to do a full AP BBK upgrade. Fronts are given but as I understand rear 4 pistons are a little overkill and most people fit them to have a matching set and for looks. Please correct me If I am wrong.
    I am sure they are better than stock setup. No question about that BUT seing new M cars even with ceramics running single piston rears made me think. Some race teams are even stating %75 percent of the stopping power is achieved with fronts and some say even more.

    What are your opinions ?

    P.S. I am running RS29's, SS Lines and SRF Liquid on stock setup atm.

    #2
    I had AP front/rear BBK before I had to sell it.

    I bought only front Brembo BBK and the rear is OEM.
    All is ok, I didn't see any issue at the track.
    The balance feels right (I do trailbraking).

    I am not going to upgrade the rear ones.

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      #3
      Originally posted by alexk View Post
      I had AP front/rear BBK before I had to sell it.

      I bought only front Brembo BBK and the rear is OEM.
      All is ok, I didn't see any issue at the track.
      The balance feels right (I do trailbraking).

      I am not going to upgrade the rear ones.
      Thanks for your input Alex,

      It is very interesting that most of the vendors I get a quote from are strongly pushing me for the new AP Radi-Cal kit. They say it is superior in every way but I much prefer the classic kit for ease of finding parts and proven performance.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Clubber View Post
        Thanks for your input Alex,

        It is very interesting that most of the vendors I get a quote from are strongly pushing me for the new AP Radi-Cal kit. They say it is superior in every way but I much prefer the classic kit for ease of finding parts and proven performance.
        My kits has been fantastic, best by for the CSL by far

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          #5
          Not in my experience.

          AP's up front, OEM at back and decent pads all round is a superb combo.

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            #6
            Originally posted by shimmy View Post
            My kits has been fantastic, best by for the CSL by far
            That seems to be the default choice I understand.
            Originally posted by 0836whimper View Post
            Not in my experience.

            AP's up front, OEM at back and decent pads all round is a superb combo.
            I hope so too although I think I'll put them on each year. This year the fronts and next year the rears, fingers crossed. Unless I win the lotto and go for those new stoptech carbon seramics

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              #7
              I found that the car was more settled under hard braking when I went from just front kit with OEM rears to having the 4 pot rears too, the car seems to dive less, less weight transfer to the front.

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                #8
                I am looking at doing the rear kit as uprated pads are just over heating, will get Adem to look into why first.

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                  #9
                  [QUOTE=CraigMillwardCroft;n526647]I am looking at doing the rear kit as uprated pads are just over heating, will get Adem to look into why first.[/QUOT


                  What uprated pads are you running ? Have you recorded the temps ?

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                    #10
                    [QUOTE=trackm3;n526648]
                    Originally posted by CraigMillwardCroft View Post
                    I am looking at doing the rear kit as uprated pads are just over heating, will get Adem to look into why first.[/QUOT


                    What uprated pads are you running ? Have you recorded the temps ?
                    I think they were pagids ? and are all blistered.

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                      #11
                      [QUOTE=CraigMillwardCroft;n526649]
                      Originally posted by trackm3 View Post

                      I think they were pagids ? and are all blistered.
                      Have you any pictures ? Looking down on the pads fitted ?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by _Nathan_ View Post
                        I found that the car was more settled under hard braking when I went from just front kit with OEM rears to having the 4 pot rears too, the car seems to dive less, less weight transfer to the front.

                        After 8 years I think money spent on the AP kit was the best money I ever spent on the CSL......if I was to recommend to anyone buying a CSL to track it would be the first thing on any list to buy

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                          #13
                          Great balance when braking hard.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by CraigMillwardCroft View Post
                            I am looking at doing the rear kit as uprated pads are just over heating, will get Adem to look into why first.
                            Are you driving with DSC on again!! :hahaha:

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by _Nathan_ View Post
                              I found that the car was more settled under hard braking when I went from just front kit with OEM rears to having the 4 pot rears too, the car seems to dive less, less weight transfer to the front.
                              This is probably because when installing the rear 4 piston calipers, the brake bias moves more to the rear of the car.

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