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**m3f_FSUhorizon** · 10-16-2008, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by beamer-screamer

Ok were do i start, what a pile of dirt an dont ever buy one....

I've had issues with mine. The solution is to convert it to manual. I've estimated that the total cost should be about $1,000.00 USD. The parts are approximately $400.00. The labor should be about six hours.

If you want details, let me know. I have a nearly complete parts list and can go into exactly what needs to be done. Mine should be converted in the next month or so.

$m3f_Shock(/\)ave$ · 10-16-2008, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by FSUhorizon

The solution is to convert it to manual.

That's the only answer worth consideration.

**m3f_97_4dr_5spd_m3** · 10-16-2008, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by beamer-screamer

Ok were do i start, what a pile of dirt an dont ever buy one

Have an SMG M3 Evo Coupe 1998 it has the automatic an tip-tronic gearbox....

This car is totally unperdicable, one day you could drive a 100 mile an it would be fine next day you could drive down the road a mile then next thing it happens....

The dash will start lighting up like a christmas tree, with 1st a we yellow light with a symbol of a cog, then next thing it will go into a state of what ya call "Limp Mode", once the car enters this mode it only selects one gear which is third gear an what this is to do is to get you to the closes garage, because once the engine is switched off it will not start again unless is has been put on the computer an has it apaters reset....

The only computers that or fit to do this seems to be the only ones BMW have them selves, so has you can guess its not cheap....

Once the problem first started it was left straight into the BM garage, the guys have worked on the car over a month an still cant find any problems, once i go lift it i usually get bout 5mile down the road then wallllhaaaaa it happens all over again, they reset the adapters an away shes goes, but cant find out what is causing the problem...

So bascially this is a long shot but can anyone help me!!!

Thanks

From over readings, this is a known problem with this generation (and even with the e46) smg.

**m3f_BMWchubbs** · 10-16-2008, 03:54 PM

New transmission DME?

**m3f_beamer-screamer** · 10-17-2008, 03:08 AM

So going to manual seems to be the way forward....

But is this not a really big an expensive job to do

FSUhorizon- Im very interested lad, would i be able to get them details of you...

if you convert $1000 into my money it will only cost £500 it seems very cheap for the amount of work that will need doing....

**m3f_Limbsy** · 10-17-2008, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by beamer-screamer

So going to manual seems to be the way forward....

But is this not a really big an expensive job to do

FSUhorizon- Im very interested lad, would i be able to get them details of you...

if you convert $1000 into my money it will only cost £500 it seems very cheap for the amount of work that will need doing....

A bit more than that I think over here dude, why did you get the SMG? Did you read up on it at all? They are NIGHTMARES! Switch to a manual ASAP, and save a bundle in the long run, and actually enjoy driving the car.....

Pics?

**m3f_beamer-screamer** · 10-17-2008, 06:43 AM

Just took a very quick look on the internet an found this...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bmw-E36-M3-EVO...d=p3286.c0.m14

So by the looks of things its going to cost alot more that wat use boys reckon, over here i think its going to cost at least £2000

**m3f_FSUhorizon** · 10-17-2008, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by beamer-screamer

Just took a very quick look on the internet an found this...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bmw-E36-M3-EVO...d=p3286.c0.m14

So by the looks of things its going to cost alot more that wat use boys reckon, over here i think its going to cost at least £2000

You reuse the gearbox that you have. The only difference in the SMG and manual gearbox is that the manual gearbox has two holes in the bell housing for elements of the shift linkage. SMG really is an automated manual. I'll post again with the the entire parts list that I've made up.

**m3f_FSUhorizon** · 10-17-2008, 07:04 AM

FSUHorizon’s SMG to manual parts list.

Description Part Number Cost

Locking pin 23111222979 $11.34

Compression spring 23311228393 $2.16

Sealing cover (x2) 23127527439 $3.40 (x2)

Lock Ring (x2) 07119934624 $1.37 (X2)

Locking pin 23311224130 $9.26

Compression spring 23111222720 $4.06

Repair kit, locking 23317506947 $65.46

Repair kit, bearing 23117542726 $4.54

Clutch master cylinder 21526758820 $70.25

Clutch slave cylinder 21526766277M33 $63.75

Other necessary parts:

Cruise control clutch switch

Shift boot

Shift knob

Shifter carrier (for this part and the selector rod, I recommend the UUC or Rogue engineering shifters)

Selector rod

Clutch pedal and all accompanying parts. Every part on this diagram is needed. 2 x number 11 are needed. Approximate cost is $60.00

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...54&hg=35&fg=05

Clutch line mounting brackets

Clutch pressure switch

Conversion procedure:

1. Drop the transmission. Two holes must be drilled into the bellhousing in order to install the first six parts listed above. See these pictures for details:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...7&d=1207616474

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...8&d=1207616474

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...9&d=1207616474

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...0&d=1207616474

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...1&d=1207616474

2. Cruise control clutch switch must be connected for vehicles with cruise control.

3. Unplug fuse 28-SMG supply. Do not unplug the SMG control unit. The vehicle will not start. This info has been posted identifying two different fuses: 2 fuses: #111 and #26, one is on the fusebox, other is behind the smg pump. I do not know which is correct.

4. Unplug the connections to the SMG display on the back of the instrument cluster Optional: the cluster SMG display can be converted to an oil temperature display.

5. Optional: the smg display area in the center console can be changed to a storage pocket. Part number for the storage pocket : 51161977231

Links for reference:

1. Diagram showing parts one through six above:

http://bmwfans.info/original/E36/Lim...3/ill-23_0233/

2. Forum thread discussing the conversion process: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=975956

http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/e36-m3...g-problem.html

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...9&postcount=68

3. Forum thread discussing changing the SMG cluster display to an oil temperature display:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1047739

**m3f_camdinans3** · 10-17-2008, 07:23 AM

damm dude you're on the ball

**m3f_Limbsy** · 10-17-2008, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by beamer-screamer

Just took a very quick look on the internet an found this...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bmw-E36-M3-EVO...d=p3286.c0.m14

So by the looks of things its going to cost alot more that wat use boys reckon, over here i think its going to cost at least £2000

You already have that on your car....

FSU's list is where's its at mate! All the best with it, sounds like a project to me.....where in the UK are ya? It's nice to see more UK M's these days!!!

**m3f_beamer-screamer** · 10-17-2008, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by camdinans3

damm dude you're on the ball

Have to agree there lad, this looks totally amazin

Originally posted by Limbsy

You already have that on your car....

FSU's list is where's its at mate! All the best with it, sounds like a project to me.....where in the UK are ya? It's nice to see more UK M's these days!!!

My bad lad sorry, when it comes to this sort of thing im very basic

Originally posted by FSUhorizon

You reuse the gearbox that you have. The only difference in the SMG and manual gearbox is that the manual gearbox has two holes in the bell housing for elements of the shift linkage. SMG really is an automated manual. I'll post again with the the entire parts list that I've made up.

You have done alot of research on this lad, im very grateful

Have you yours started yet, or is it coming?

**m3f_FSUhorizon** · 10-17-2008, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by beamer-screamer

...You have done alot of research on this lad, im very grateful

Have you yours started yet, or is it coming?

I should be ordering parts in the next two weeks. I hope to have it done within the next month. My car has issues with the convertible top so the shop is going to do it all at the same time.

**m3f_M3MotorsportITA** · 10-26-2008, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by FSUhorizon

FSUHorizon’s SMG to manual parts list.

Description Part Number Cost

Locking pin 23111222979 $11.34

Compression spring 23311228393 $2.16

Sealing cover (x2) 23127527439 $3.40 (x2)

Lock Ring (x2) 07119934624 $1.37 (X2)

Locking pin 23311224130 $9.26

Compression spring 23111222720 $4.06

Repair kit, locking 23317506947 $65.46

Repair kit, bearing 23117542726 $4.54

Clutch master cylinder 21526758820 $70.25

Clutch slave cylinder 21526766277M33 $63.75

Other necessary parts:

Cruise control clutch switch

Shift boot

Shift knob

Shifter carrier (for this part and the selector rod, I recommend the UUC or Rogue engineering shifters)

Selector rod

Clutch pedal and all accompanying parts. Every part on this diagram is needed. 2 x number 11 are needed. Approximate cost is $60.00

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...54&hg=35&fg=05

Clutch line mounting brackets

Clutch pressure switch

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Hello, I am about to make the conversion but I can not find the parts with this code: Repair kit, bearing 23117542726

I have looked at Realoem and bmwfans but I have not found anything. If I'm going to BMW I find it?

I have already taken action to buy this part: 1,2,3,4,5,6,16 (Click here)

but where I find these parts (look image below)? The 2 and 3 (look image below) are already mounted on my gearbox? And other???

thanks for any reply

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