Ok, to start, this is not a these are better than those, you get what you pay for, or they are crap because they are not TRM/AST/GC/Moton/etc thread. Please refrain from going that route.
I bought them during the group buy, so I know that there are owners here that have them, and this would be a good place for impressions and set up.
First I would like to say that these were not my first (or even third choice) of coilovers when I started shopping for CO's. It came down to what "the boss" said I could spend on a suspension that didn't "need" replacing. $1000 was the budget I was limited to, and I wanted to be sure I wouldn't go over it incase I need to replace any other suspension items while doing the install.
I do track, and this is my DD.
I went with the track/race set with 10k (560lbs) F/12k (672lbs) R. First set that was sent to me was a street set with 10k F/8k R, called AJ Performance (Andrew and Tim) and they sent me a return label with no fuss, just an appology and "we will get it taken care of". Had to wait another 2-3 weeks for the next set to arrive, pillow ball uppers were on back order. New set arrived, track/race 10k F/10k R, :confused, sent Andrew/Tim an email, they said run it, we will send you the 12k rears you ordered, cool, but it has been 3wks and they haven't arrived yet - need to give them a call. That said, they have been nothing but professional and "customer first" oriented, which is good in my book.
Install was easy, height and spring loads were done by comparing with other coilover systems set-ups posted by other members.
Shock adjustments are 32 way, which is nice, but the overwhelming consensus is each click would not produce a noticable difference. So I heeded that advice and adjusted them by 4 clicks off full stiff for each adjustment. Worked great, ended up with 8 clicks front, and 12 clicks rear off full stiff. I was able to notice the difference immediatley with each adjustment, and I ran each for about 2 days before making another.
Camber plates - The biggest draw back I noticed right off the bat was the lack of overall negative camber at full adjustment. So I removed the two inner most allen bolts, and moved them to the next inner hole, it gained me a little more. I have not gone to get an alignment yet, waiting on my 12k rear springs, but before I do I will do the shim mod as outlined in the definative alignment thread.
Caster - Not adjustable, but some was gained. I have THR eyeball arms, so I already had ALOT of caster with my '96 geometry and the off set THR arms. First fix will be to repalce my control arms with '95 m3 control arm, then centered CABs if needed (hope not, I really like my Eyeball arms).
I will post pics at some point.
Herbert
I bought them during the group buy, so I know that there are owners here that have them, and this would be a good place for impressions and set up.
First I would like to say that these were not my first (or even third choice) of coilovers when I started shopping for CO's. It came down to what "the boss" said I could spend on a suspension that didn't "need" replacing. $1000 was the budget I was limited to, and I wanted to be sure I wouldn't go over it incase I need to replace any other suspension items while doing the install.
I do track, and this is my DD.
I went with the track/race set with 10k (560lbs) F/12k (672lbs) R. First set that was sent to me was a street set with 10k F/8k R, called AJ Performance (Andrew and Tim) and they sent me a return label with no fuss, just an appology and "we will get it taken care of". Had to wait another 2-3 weeks for the next set to arrive, pillow ball uppers were on back order. New set arrived, track/race 10k F/10k R, :confused, sent Andrew/Tim an email, they said run it, we will send you the 12k rears you ordered, cool, but it has been 3wks and they haven't arrived yet - need to give them a call. That said, they have been nothing but professional and "customer first" oriented, which is good in my book.
Install was easy, height and spring loads were done by comparing with other coilover systems set-ups posted by other members.
Shock adjustments are 32 way, which is nice, but the overwhelming consensus is each click would not produce a noticable difference. So I heeded that advice and adjusted them by 4 clicks off full stiff for each adjustment. Worked great, ended up with 8 clicks front, and 12 clicks rear off full stiff. I was able to notice the difference immediatley with each adjustment, and I ran each for about 2 days before making another.
Camber plates - The biggest draw back I noticed right off the bat was the lack of overall negative camber at full adjustment. So I removed the two inner most allen bolts, and moved them to the next inner hole, it gained me a little more. I have not gone to get an alignment yet, waiting on my 12k rear springs, but before I do I will do the shim mod as outlined in the definative alignment thread.
Caster - Not adjustable, but some was gained. I have THR eyeball arms, so I already had ALOT of caster with my '96 geometry and the off set THR arms. First fix will be to repalce my control arms with '95 m3 control arm, then centered CABs if needed (hope not, I really like my Eyeball arms).
I will post pics at some point.
Herbert
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