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    Looking for 250whp

    I just purchased a 97' M3. Looking for suggestions on how to achieve 250whp all-motor without jeapordizing drivability.

    #2
    Jim Conforti Cam Kit combined with a catback exhaust should put you right near the 250 whp you desire.



    Cam Kit= www.sharked.com (somewhere around $3k)



    Exhaust= Really depends on the kind of sound you are looking for.



    Loud=

    www.rogueengineering.com

    www.uucmotorwerks.com

    www.bavauto.com (tri-flow)



    Quieter:

    www.dinanbmw.com

    www.supersprintna.com

    www.aatuning.com

    www.understeer.com (stromung)



    All exhausts for our cars give similar gains, so the choice is up to you.



    Hope this Helps.



    -RIchard

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      #3
      Turner Motorsport (www.turnermotorsport) and Bimmer World (www.bimmerworld) also have the Schrik Cam kits.



      You might also want to add-on an other $1,000 for the install of the kit as well.

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        #4
        I hope you got $$$.

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          #5
          Get a Euro engine... I just can't accept that you're going to get 250 at the rear wheels from a 240 crank engine with cams and other simple mods. Check my chart, that's from 321.

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            #6
            The Schrick Cam Kit can dyno at over 250 at the wheels. This of course depends upon many factors. I would think that you are getting more then 245 whp out of 321, something might be wrong with your engine if you are see a loss of 76 hp.



            Seem odd to anyone else?

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              #7
              try these guys out : http://www.dynospotracing.com/

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                #8
                Get a Euro engine... I just can't accept that you're going to get 250 at the rear wheels from a 240 crank engine with cams and other simple mods. Check my chart, that's from 321.



                lol... all you say is get a euro engine.... damn you :box:

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                  #9
                  The Schrick Cam Kit can dyno at over 250 at the wheels. This of course depends upon many factors. I would think that you are getting more then 245 whp out of 321, something might be wrong with your engine if you are see a loss of 76 hp.



                  Seem odd to anyone else?



                  321 is bhp........ 245 is rwhp

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                    #10
                    Do they make the JC cam kit for 1995 M3s? The one on Sharked.com is for the 1996-1999. Would the kit for the '95 M3 be cheaper since you already have the S50 manifold? Also, can you purchase the JC cams, injectors, and intake all seperatly?

                    -Chris

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                      #11
                      www.turnermotorsports.com they have the cam kit for the 95's. Its $1200. The JC cams are just schricks, injectors are just any 24lbs bosch, and the 3.5" intake can be purchases seperately, even the chip can be bought seperate.

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                        #12
                        Brent Hocky: I understand what his hp levels are. You did not understand what I was trying to say, so let me try this.



                        If his European engine is pumping out 321 crank horse power, and 245 of that is getting to the rear wheels, 76 hp is lost in the trek. This number is too high, so I find it hard to believe that his engine is producting the factory claimed 321 crank horse power (I'm not trying to be a ****, I'm just trying to explain the thought process here that I'm using to all involved). Maybe the engine has covered many miles and is tired, maybe the dyno that was used was not accurate, maybe, maybe; maybe.



                        Now, you look at the dyno charts for the Schrick Cam kit for the 3.2L US engine and you see that the wheel horse power is around 250-260, which would mean that the crank horse power has to be near 300 hp which is what Schrick, Turner, Bimmerworld all claim it to be. A hp loss of 50 is much more realistic then 76.



                        See where I'm coming from?



                        Again, not trying to be a **** or start any fights with you guys.

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                          #13
                          It also hugely depends on what kind of dyno he ran on, as some show higher whp numbers than others. There is a very good chance that there is nothing wrong with his engine.

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                            #14
                            For example-



                            On KTR's Dyno Dynamics dyno, I put down 181 whp and 200 tq.



                            On the local Dynojet, I drop 217-220 whp and over 230 TQ all day, depending on the conditions, etc.



                            Dyno type = potentially huge difference in numbers.

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                              #15
                              CMT: Exactly! That is what I was trying to get at.

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