Hey guys I am new to this forum and this is one of my first posts. Just want to say hi...my name is kason and i am the proud owner of a 1999 black m3. I went from a civic si to a m3. Big step up....kinda embarassed bout my civic :chair: . Anyway do you guys think 19 or 20 would look good on a black m3. If they were chrome I mean. I am going to lower regardless. Thanks guys. :rockband:
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Hey and welcome.
Theres alot of bling bling to the 19's and 20's. You may have a rather hard time fitting 20's on there in the first place. From what I have heard, 19 is probably the largest you'll get away with. -
Are you serious?
So much for handling.Comment
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17 is perfect.
18 == too much increase in tire cost for zero gain.
19/20 == 'hello i like to bling bling up my wheels to make people think i have lots of money instead of spending it on actual performance enhancing mods.'Comment
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Remember that 19, 20's (especially chrome) will add unsprung weight and SLOW you down. IIRC you can multiply unsprung weight by about a factor of 5 to get the equalivent added sprung weight. Many chrome 20" wheels weigh 35+ lbs - that's about 13 more than stock/wheel. That would be like adding 260lbs to your car! (not to mention the implications to suspension compliance) You need to decide how much performance you want to trade for bling. Many people spend the money for 18" or 19" wheels that are lightweight, but expensive...most are aluminium.Comment
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So I stick with some more 17s that are light wieght. Then what else do I need other than my ECIS intake, shark injected, eibach springs, strut bar? Maybe some type of exhaust although I think the intakes make are cars sound great with the stock exhaust.Thanks again with the fast replying. :beer: :beer:Comment
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If you want some nice lightweight rims, I have always been a fan of SSR Comps. As for the rims, I bought my M with 18" Kellener wheels, they were very lightweight, yet when I went back to 17" tires the car was faster and performed better. The place where big rims hurt you the most is in braking. I think the braking is more noticeably affected than the acceleration. Also, as was mentioned 18+" tires are ridiculously more expensive.Comment
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Larger wheels do not add significant unsprung weight, and they do add cornering capacity since their is less side-wall which translates to less roll-over . Furthermore, it does make the car look much better! I don't necessarily associate bling-bling with large wheels either. Those wheels that have the spinners in them are as bling-bling as you can get. 19" wheels make the car look more "stocky". Plus on a E36 you can stagger larger tires on the back and fill-in the wheel wells better. Nothing looks worse (IMO) than empty wheel wells. Some people don't think that looks better....most do. Again, IMO 19" wheels and tires on an E36 are a significant aesthetic upgrade. Hey, if 17's were so great, than the new M's would still be using them.
Check out this car:
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/449103
In my view, that's not bling-bling.....that just flat looks good.Comment
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Neither, both would look dumb.
Keep them in the 17-18 inch size and they will look good.Comment
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welcome. 19-20 would be mostly a "look" thing, plus if you have a suspension
setup that is lower than stock - you could run into fitment issues.
19s would be the biggest I would suggest to shove under the fenders.
enjoy the drive - you'll love the M3Comment
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wwjdithca,
As i posted, if you take a typical chrome wheel like a Niche Pultec it weighs 33 lbs (20") - that is a significant increase. Remember the original post, he is talking about chrome wheels. The BBS CH's in the link you posted are a nice (expensive ) lightweight wheels and they weigh 27 lbs (in 19"). There are tradeoffs between total wheel/tire mass and sidewall flex. Most people who track their cars run 17-18" wheels (mostly 17" that weigh preferably around 16-17 lbs).Comment
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wwjdithca,
As i posted, if you take a typical chrome wheel like a Niche Pultec it weighs 33 lbs (20") - that is a significant increase. Remember the original post, he is talking about chrome wheels. The BBS CH's in the link you posted are a nice (expensive ) lightweight wheels and they weigh 27 lbs (in 19"). There are tradeoffs between total wheel/tire mass and sidewall flex. Most people who track their cars run 17-18" wheels (mostly 17" that weigh preferably around 16-17 lbs).
I guess you didn't get my point. Were talking street use here, what affect are we really talking about in street use? I'ts really a moot point right?
It really comes down to what looks better, and in my opinion, your M (which is nice) would look much better with a nice set of 19's aboard. No?Comment
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Did a little research and it looks like you are correct...the mass equalivent is more like 2:1 (unsprung:sprung). Suspension compliance over a bumpy corner is another story though.... But your point is well taken.Comment
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i was thinking of some spinners. by no means am i a *****, but i was gonna use them when i put my car in teh local show
bbs rs-gt's is where its at
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i was thinking of some spinners. by no means am i a *****, but i was gonna use them when i put my car in teh local show
bbs rs-gt's is where its at
I agree BBS RS-GTs are pretty tight...in fact, I was considering getting those rims prior to ultimately deciding on my current ones (WORK). I decided to pass on the BBSs 'cuz I had heard that the quality of the newer BBS wheels (i.e. RS-GT, RGR, etc.) has dropped significantly compared to their older wheels like the RC, RS-II, RX-II, LM, etc.
Anyway, back to the subject of this post. It seems there are many hard-core enthusiasts on this forum, seeing how they so adamantly stick to stock size wheels (17"). I also am a performance enthusiast...but I'll trade a 1/5th of a second off my quarter mile (from any added unsprung weight) ANYDAY for the bling of 18" or 19" wheels, especially for the streets. I mean Jesus Christ people, everyday isn't a day at Laguna Seca. :???:
http://www.roadfly.org/bmw/gallery/photos/photos-07-2002/9978.jpgComment
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