I started changing my steering guibo...

[m3f_Alexandre]

My steering has been feeling a little bit loose/there is play in it. I looked through all the records and didn't see the steering guibo changed in the past. I ordered, and followed the great instructions from this thread:


http://m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=278999 (thank you very much)


I took the guibo out and it seemed in good shape. Now my car has had this loose steering feel, but not as if it's sloppy steering, it's like something is loose. After taking it out and moving things around it seems that the actual piece that's causing the annoying looseness is part #2 in this diagram and not the guibo. Anyone have any experience replacing this?


It's the joint in part #2 in this diagram:


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Is it worth starting to replace this? Not sure how easy it is as I didn't notice the bolts or anything. Any input is appreciated.


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[m3f_Diesel///M3]

I am having the exact same problem and have not been able to get much help on the issue. I am going to just buy the part and have the dealer do the swap to save me the aggravation. Mine is so loose that its making a jiggling knocking noise constantly driving me nuts.

[m3f_jayjaya29]

There is a bolt farther up on the steering shaft that will allow you to completely remove that part of the column.

[m3f_Diesel///M3]

Am I correct in assuming that this bolt can only be reached from underneath? I almost cant imagine how anyone could even access it because of its awkward placement.

[m3f_Alexandre]

I will look for the bolt over the weekend and post better pics with my DSLR so we can get some more input on this.



I have the same symptoms as you, there is a "clicking" sound when I go over driveways or crappy roads, it's extremely annoying and the steering has a bit of play in it.



My LCA's are fairly new, tie rods were done 5k ago and I was still getting play, it's brutal.

[m3f_gripenM]

when you're out of options..



http://www.vorshlag.com/product_info...roducts_id=158

[m3f_Tony86420]

Not to be a dick, but it's spelled giubo. :-)

[m3f_Alexandre]

Replaced the giubo as well as the lower steering shaft. Will post pics tonight, overall it wasn't a complicated process, but definitely a pain especially if your hands aren't small. Haven't tested/driven the car as I broke one of the bolts holding the steering rack to the subframe.



Pics tonight.

[m3f_tpevan]

I have replaced #2 before. The u-joint in that portion of the column has a tendency to wear out and cause extra play in the entire steering system or fuse from corrosion. My actually fused and I had lumpy steering and the car would not correct itself after turning. I replaced the lower column and the giubo and everything works flawless. My steering feels great now, and has very little play to it. The column can be a PITA to get off depending on how much corrosion is on the splines, but a penetrant should help it come loose.




Originally Posted by gripenM:

when you're out of options..



http://www.vorshlag.com/product_info...roducts_id=158

No thank you. I would prefer not to have my entire steering column and steering wheel shoved through my chest if I'm in a frontal collision.




Originally Posted by Tony86420:

Not to be a dick, but it's spelled giubo. :-)

This is true.





Giubo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia











Giubo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia









Giubo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[m3f_modernbeat]

Originally Posted by tpevan:

No thank you. I would prefer not to have my entire steering column and steering wheel shoved through my chest if I'm in a frontal collision.]

You realize that the Vorshlag steering column is collapsible like the stock intermediate shaft? That's the double-D shaft that allows it to collapse in compression. Just like OEM. And the majority of the collapsing shaft is inside the firewall - which you don't need to change out.



And it's not guibo. It's "rag joint". :-)