Subframe Dropped and cracks found

[George Hill]

Triple check that drivers rear mount, drivers side wheel arch seam and spot welds in that area. I'd be surprised if those are not an issue as well.

[poss]

Asking because I had my subframe reinforced already but didn’t do the Vince bar or any of that. Just the plates

There is no need to drop subframe for topside repair only if you can extend subframe mounting hole/thread through to connect to topside brace with subframe on (1 bolt hole at a time)

[poss]

"Topside" reinforcement. A bar for the rears (cmp, vince, "gtr style" bar like SME, DMG, Mason) and cups for the front or the CMP brace that connects all 4.

- also other options are the CMP 'rails' (no bar - cheapest/easiest option) and making your own bar (I had a friend make one up - pretty easy job for a machinist/welder).

The bar improves chassis rigidity too. CMP Rails and Stealth Bar are invisible (under boot floor panel). CMP bar is not (intrudes into boot). Other X-style braces are highly intrusive and probably not the ideal engineering solution for topside RACP reinforcement (they don't directly couple to chassis rails)

[Mattn1192]

Subframe absolutely has to be dropped to do this. I purchased a VinceBar Epoxy/Rivet version and will be doing this soon, unsure if I have any cracks of course. After my front/rear suspension refresh, I'll have a better idea.

Asking because I had my subframe reinforced already but didn’t do the Vince bar or any of that. Just the plates

[BubbaTree]

All of us either have had the subframe addressed, or will need it sooner or later. I haven't had mine addressed yet, and am curious about the available options for a "fix". Anyone care to post the product they used, installation method ( epoxy vs welding), how many miles/years has your fix held up without failing?
Thanks

[scotty737]

I wonder what's different about the Redish V3 plates versus V2?



I'd just drop it... when I did my Vincebar you technically didn't have to drop it all the way, just a few inches. But dropping it all the way makes life so much easier

V3 has some top side plates. I’ll post pictures of the instructions tomorrow if I remember.

[WestBankM4]

Subframe doesn’t need to be dropped for this right? Since it’s being done at the top.

Subframe absolutely has to be dropped to do this. I purchased a VinceBar Epoxy/Rivet version and will be doing this soon, unsure if I have any cracks of course. After my front/rear suspension refresh, I'll have a better idea.

[timmo]

I wonder what's different about the Redish V3 plates versus V2?

Subframe doesn’t need to be dropped for this right? Since it’s being done at the top.

I'd just drop it... when I did my Vincebar you technically didn't have to drop it all the way, just a few inches. But dropping it all the way makes life so much easier

[scotty737]

Subframe doesn’t need to be dropped for this right? Since it’s being done at the top.

It does. At least for most.

[Mattn1192]

"Topside" reinforcement. A bar for the rears (cmp, vince, "gtr style" bar like SME, DMG, Mason) and cups for the front or the CMP brace that connects all 4.

Subframe doesn’t need to be dropped for this right? Since it’s being done at the top.

[gixxer]

Looks like the subframe kit has has seen some improvements over years. I had installed the kit from Turner back in 2007, i think they were the only game in town back then, if i recall.

[Tbonem3]

How do u fix that issue?

"Topside" reinforcement. A bar for the rears (cmp, vince, "gtr style" bar like SME, DMG, Mason) and cups for the front or the CMP brace that connects all 4.

[Mattn1192]

You beat me to it . Those cracks are the symptom of a structural issue that band-aids on the wounds (plates) will not cure.

How do u fix that issue?

[scotty737]

So Redish plates for underside, got it. What is everyone using for topside reinforcement that can be bought today, since I see you said the V3 isn't released to the public yet?

They said it was supposed to be released at the end of the month(July) so I would assume it is any day now.

vince bar or the cmp top side seems to be what everyone does.

[MTiz]

So Redish plates for underside, got it. What is everyone using for topside reinforcement that can be bought today, since I see you said the V3 isn't released to the public yet?