Strut Mount and Camber Plate Comparison

[fattycharged]

Thanks for blazing this trail for us. Follow-up question for you as I have a pair of TMS Hybrid plates on the way and need perches for my Ohlins.

Did you buy the GC Street, Street Hybrid or Race perches? Did you pair them with the TMS bearing or did you buy a GC bearing?

If helpful, here is a link to the GC street perches: https://groundcontrolstore.com/produ...7725999f&_ss=r

I went with a 60mm street perch for use with my H&R springs. However, I also bought the other spring diameter options, because I have not run these springs yet, so can't comment on that.

I currently have them installed with a BMW bearing, though I believe they are the same dimensions as the GC, the BMW unit is a very tight fit


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[LSB4Me]

Ok, can confirm the ™ Hybrid plates will work with a 60mm GC spring perch, which means you don't need to shell out $185 for a 2.5 from them.

Can also confirm, the hybrid plates are made in china/taiwan now, the brittle plastic wrap they come in gives that away easily…


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Thanks for blazing this trail for us. Follow-up question for you as I have a pair of TMS Hybrid plates on the way and need perches for my Ohlins.

Did you buy the GC Street, Street Hybrid or Race perches? Did you pair them with the TMS bearing or did you buy a GC bearing?

If helpful, here is a link to the GC street perches: https://groundcontrolstore.com/produ...7725999f&_ss=r

[cobra]

I just installed the Ground Control hybrid plates. It was a little weird and required some emails to support, so I made a quick video how everything goes together. Hopefully a good addition to this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dnrlga4is

I wish more people made informative videos like this. My observations:
-I think you installed the springs right, it's better for the helper spring coupler to hit the metal before coil binding the helper so it doesn't cock to one side. In reality unless you're jumping your car you will probably never actually extend the helper spring except when working on it. Otherwise I'd be worried about it getting caught on the edge of the body.
-Very weird you had to modify the threaded portion to fit the swaybar mount, kind of an unfortunate oversight by GC. Would it be feasible to stack washers under the adapter to raise it up so no modification is needed?
-Did you compare the stack height of the GC camber plate to the stock one? Despite the threaded adapter taking up some length, I think it's also shorter overall so hopefully you didn't lose travel with these parts?
-You might want to consider running the BMW reinforcement plates since the GC plates put all the forces through a smaller area than the stock mount.
-The main spring does not look like it has very much travel. You should check that it won't coil bind given your travel and ride height configuration.
-Check your bump stop position relative to the body at ride height. You might find that it's touching or nearly touching.

I have these same GC plates. I was worried about added NVH but didn't really notice much. I didn't like that for a near-stock alignment setting, the adjustment is all the way at the limit. Eventually went back to stock.

[uberchris]

thanks for this. would like to hear your feedback on them. any noises, clunks, weirdness driving around town?

I got it aligned and corner balanced today and my next track day is tomorrow, so I only have feedback on the installation and street performance:

• There are definitely some new pops and clunks during parking-lot-speed maneuvers
• At speed, there is really not much difference for most bumps with one exception: rumble strips are INCREDIBLY LOUD.
• Setting the alignment on the front was a huge pain. Despite what the GC website says, there is no way to access the camber bolts without at least loosening the strut mounting bolts. Minor trackside camber adjustments are absolutely not an option.

[bavarian3]

I just installed the Ground Control hybrid plates. It was a little weird and required some emails to support, so I made a quick video how everything goes together. Hopefully a good addition to this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dnrlga4is

thanks for this. would like to hear your feedback on them. any noises, clunks, weirdness driving around town?

[uberchris]

I just installed the Ground Control hybrid plates. It was a little weird and required some emails to support, so I made a quick video how everything goes together. Hopefully a good addition to this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dnrlga4is

[fattycharged]

Good deals on the site. Did you get them installed yet? Would like to hear feedback on road feel, nvh

Not installed, just received.


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[bavarian3]

Ha, no idea, just talking bs. They are a solid option IMO

I ordered off of EuroSportTuning.com


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Good deals on the site. Did you get them installed yet? Would like to hear feedback on road feel, nvh

[fattycharged]

good to know!! thanks.

were the plates actually american made before or something?

Ha, no idea, just talking bs. They are a solid option IMO

I ordered off of EuroSportTuning.com


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[bavarian3]

Ok, can confirm the ™ Hybrid plates will work with a 60mm GC spring perch, which means you don't need to shell out $185 for a 2.5 from them.

Can also confirm, the hybrid plates are made in china/taiwan now, the brittle plastic wrap they come in gives that away easily…


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good to know!! thanks.

were the plates actually american made before or something?

[fattycharged]

Ok, can confirm the ™ Hybrid plates will work with a 60mm GC spring perch, which means you don't need to shell out $185 for a 2.5 from them.

Can also confirm, the hybrid plates are made in china/taiwan now, the brittle plastic wrap they come in gives that away easily…


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[Tbonem3]

. A little sand paper and elbow grease? lol.

I wouldn't hesitate, personally. But I'm the type that can handle the holier-than-thou criticism that comes along with doing things unconventionally.

[fattycharged]

Anyone know where i can get the Ground Control thrust bearing Minus from GC? Thanks.

Call em, they'll have blem'd units some time with prepressed bearings


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[0-60motorsports]

Anyone know where i can get the Ground Control thrust bearing Minus from GC? Thanks.

[fattycharged]

I was referring to the turner 2.5 perches since they sell them. Nevertheless would love to hear if the GC perches will work. Are they(turner plates) actually in stock now?!

As in the Hybrid plates? Not sure, I ordered a set of them from a reseller for $100+ less than Turner sells them.


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