Comprehensive Steering Information Thread

[bullet0770]

If you're at all like me, you need to try it before you dismiss it. Put it in and give a whirl, then make your decision. Swapping out a steering rack and having to flush the system again isn't the worst thing in the world, but it's also not the most fun.


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I better keep it brand new and sell to someone who would use it for track. oh boy simple question went into this lol. Maybe just do a yellow tag or green tag which ever I could find.


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[davidinnyc]

Don't do it. If you want mine, you can have it for Pennie's on the dollar to play with. Been meaning to list it locally as is. So done with it. Two alignments. The three times I went inspecting what the hell was going on. But the steering was like an F30 not in sport mode. Just no weight at all. It's pretty intense if you do anything remotely quick under 40 mph. Any aggressive driving in 2nd will require DSC stage 1 to be off

I’ve actually been thinking to manufacture and produce something closer to 2.7 turns, might not be bad to rip it open and engineer this a bit.

[YoitsTmac]

How bad were the interventions?

Don't do it. If you want mine, you can have it for Pennie's on the dollar to play with. Been meaning to list it locally as is. So done with it. Two alignments. The three times I went inspecting what the hell was going on. But the steering was like an F30 not in sport mode. Just no weight at all. It's pretty intense if you do anything remotely quick under 40 mph. Any aggressive driving in 2nd will require DSC stage 1 to be off

[davidinnyc]

Should I put this in or buy a used original rack and sell this to a track user 🙁


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If you're at all like me, you need to try it before you dismiss it. Put it in and give a whirl, then make your decision. Swapping out a steering rack and having to flush the system again isn't the worst thing in the world, but it's also not the most fun.


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[bullet0770]

If you're a die hard for steering feel, I'd go yellow or purple. Also on the street, you can expect DSc intervention at Lower speeds

I was fine with the original steering rack, it was leaking the only reason I am changing. I can go yellow or purple tag but they are hard to find. Car is on jack and now I am in dilemma lol.


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[Bry5on]

If you're a die hard for steering feel, I'd go yellow or purple. Also on the street, you can expect DSc intervention at Lower speeds

How bad were the interventions?

[YoitsTmac]

If you're a die hard for steering feel, I'd go yellow or purple. Also on the street, you can expect DSc intervention at Lower speeds

[bullet0770]

Big caution to those who want to get the black tag rack:
- steering was incredibly light (I am not the only one per the m3 fb group)
- some have experienced a low-speed judder. This was mild enough in my car for me not to care, but others stated it made the car unpleasant to drive at low speed. Apparently if you email them that you have this symptom, they'll send you a custom hose.
- mine blew both its seals and made itself a fancy ornament after about 3,000 calm miles with fresh fluid. Immensely disappointing, irrespective of how nice it is to be on a first name basis with my alignment shop.

that is no fun, maybe strictly a track car use then. 🙁🤔


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[bullet0770]

I have a black tag that I've tested in my cars as well (yellow, blue, purple, black have all been tested). I'm pretty sure a more robust power steering pump is needed to run the black tag…


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Should I put this in or buy a used original rack and sell this to a track user 🙁


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[bullet0770]

It will make the steering wheel off center. Not a huge deal but hugely obnoxious to me.

If it's off you can of course re-do it. Just more work, and kind of a pain, since you won't know for sure until you drive it.

If the steering is center and rack is centered. then slide the plastic so it aligns the rack mark without moving the spline. What needs to be done to make sure it is aligned?


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[davidinnyc]

Big caution to those who want to get the black tag rack:
- steering was incredibly light (I am not the only one per the m3 fb group)
- some have experienced a low-speed judder. This was mild enough in my car for me not to care, but others stated it made the car unpleasant to drive at low speed. Apparently if you email them that you have this symptom, they'll send you a custom hose.
- mine blew both its seals and made itself a fancy ornament after about 3,000 calm miles with fresh fluid. Immensely disappointing, irrespective of how nice it is to be on a first name basis with my alignment shop.

I have a black tag that I've tested in my cars as well (yellow, blue, purple, black have all been tested). I'm pretty sure a more robust power steering pump is needed to run the black tag…


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[YoitsTmac]

Big caution to those who want to get the black tag rack:
- steering was incredibly light (I am not the only one per the m3 fb group)
- some have experienced a low-speed judder. This was mild enough in my car for me not to care, but others stated it made the car unpleasant to drive at low speed. Apparently if you email them that you have this symptom, they'll send you a custom hose.
- mine blew both its seals and made itself a fancy ornament after about 3,000 calm miles with fresh fluid. Immensely disappointing, irrespective of how nice it is to be on a first name basis with my alignment shop.

[davidinnyc]

I need to make sure I am doing this correctly, if you could help with one question.

I have the steering centered with INPA and locked.
Removed the old rack and ready to install the new LUCAS Black edition rack (LINK)
Rack is centered with 75mm on both sides.

Now the question is I need to install the plastic alignment on the spline. Will one or two tooth make a huge deal? I will align it center of the tab on the new rack (pic from other forum member).

It's slightly noticeable if you're off by a tooth or two, but only at the extremes. If you're off, you'd reset with INPA anyways.

If you want to get the cap aligned and centered properly, you'd need to follow these steps (source: I've rebuilt 100+ racks now and have centered each cap):

1. Turn the pinion rod clockwise to have the tooth side of the rod go into the steering housing completely. You know you'd done this correctly when you feel a slight “click” and it stops.

2. Take the cap and align the single tooth on the cap to the REAR circle on the pinion tube on the rack, not the front. (The front is the side with the tag facing you, the rear is the side with the rack lock)

3. With the cap pressed onto the pinion rod, turn the pinion rod and the align the single tooth on the cap to the FRONT marking on the pinion tube.

You'll center the rack every time using this method.

(Ignore the crust on this rack, it's a spare in inventory that I haven't cleaned and rebuilt yet.)







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[1000hp]

Will one or two tooth make a huge deal? I will align it center of the tab on the new rack (pic from other forum member).

It will make the steering wheel off center. Not a huge deal but hugely obnoxious to me.

If it's off you can of course re-do it. Just more work, and kind of a pain, since you won't know for sure until you drive it.

[bullet0770]

I need to make sure I am doing this correctly, if you could help with one question.

I have the steering centered with INPA and locked.
Removed the old rack and ready to install the new LUCAS Black edition rack (LINK)
Rack is centered with 75mm on both sides.

Now the question is I need to install the plastic alignment on the spline. Will one or two tooth make a huge deal? I will align it center of the tab on the new rack (pic from other forum member).