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  • usdmej
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    Originally posted by simonnim View Post
    I respect the fact that there are some real ballers here. But, why put so much money into an aging platform? To me a really expensive carbon fiber CSL style bumper is going to get ravaged unless it's some concourse show car. And if you're a low mile example awaiting for the huge classic classification wave to hit, wouldn't keeping it OEM or at least real bmw products the best way?

    But, I track and beat the crap outta the car.
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    car enthusiasts like different things. there are some guys that like/enjoy a certain platform so much they dont mind or think too much about pouring cars worth of additional money into it even for marginal gains

    i never thought twice about dd'ing and autocrossing with my OE CSL bumper, it had a ppf that didn't prevent all the damage that came its way over time but nothing a light refresh couldnt solve


    it's good to see (potentially) different brands getting back into the market, although the ones discussed in this thread are all still all maybes/not available to purchase yet


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  • AWE46M3
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    Originally posted by Gt4 View Post

    You need to pm me I am helping JC to sell his bumper cause he has no time to deal with customer. He has a composite business and has other customer other than E46 M3 guys!

    Right now, he will only produce Carbon Fiber front bumper, it can be for aluminum or kevlar rebar. Price is 3000$ CAD. Shipping is extra. Ideally we prefer to avoid shipping cause it’s crazy expensive these days (since Covid) in Canada vs in USA or Europe. Depending where in USA JC had to ship, it was around 600$CAD…
    Copy that! Thanks for confirming. I'll PM you

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  • Gt4
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    Just sold tonight the Vorsteiner CSL bumper I had on my Silver M3, took this picture since people here were talking about different build quality/process.

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  • Epoustouflant
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    Originally posted by simonnim View Post
    I respect the fact that there are some real ballers here. But, why put so much money into an aging platform? To me a really expensive carbon fiber CSL style bumper is going to get ravaged unless it's some concourse show car. And if you're a low mile example awaiting for the huge classic classification wave to hit, wouldn't keeping it OEM or at least real bmw products the best way?

    But, I track and beat the crap outta the car.
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    The Genuine BMW CSL front bumper is currently north of 6,000$ USD.

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  • Gt4
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    Originally posted by AWE46M3 View Post


    Great to hear Mile End is still in business. What’s the best way to get in touch with them about parts inquiries?

    You need to pm me I am helping JC to sell his bumper cause he has no time to deal with customer. He has a composite business and has other customer other than E46 M3 guys!

    Right now, he will only produce Carbon Fiber front bumper, it can be for aluminum or kevlar rebar. Price is 3000$ CAD. Shipping is extra. Ideally we prefer to avoid shipping cause it’s crazy expensive these days (since Covid) in Canada vs in USA or Europe. Depending where in USA JC had to ship, it was around 600$CAD…

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  • Obioban
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    Originally posted by simonnim View Post
    why put so much money into an aging platform? ​​​
    Because new cars suck to drive.

    I don't care what the car is worth, I just want to optimize it for my driving enjoyment. For me, it's the high water mark in BMW-- so I can let it get shitty and fall apart, or keep it nice and continue to enhance it to make it more what specifically I want.

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  • AWE46M3
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    Originally posted by Gt4 View Post

    Mile End can do both the Aluminum rebar and the kevlar rebar. Those are for the Kevlar version.

    I already have a Mile End CSL bumper, trunk and diffuser on my Laguna Seca M3. The diffuser is from a ‘’new’’ mold that JC did last winter but finally didn’t turn out as good as the first one people have on their car here so he didn’t sold any finally. Working on a new mold this fall.

    Great to hear Mile End is still in business. What’s the best way to get in touch with them about parts inquiries?


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  • simonnim
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    I respect the fact that there are some real ballers here. But, why put so much money into an aging platform? To me a really expensive carbon fiber CSL style bumper is going to get ravaged unless it's some concourse show car. And if you're a low mile example awaiting for the huge classic classification wave to hit, wouldn't keeping it OEM or at least real bmw products the best way?

    But, I track and beat the crap outta the car.
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  • Epoustouflant
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    Originally posted by Gt4 View Post

    Exact. People can buy whatever they want. Mile End Composite has never been into mass production.

    Anyway, once painted and installed, pretty much all CSL bumper look the same
    MileEnd keeps people honest with quality and a fair price - whatever that other guy is saying. These bumpers take 2 weeks to manufacture, at minimum, the pre-preg autoclave process is not rapid. There are many accessories to bond and the molds need to be serviced and maintained.

    Anyways. I'll circle back in this thread once mine is on within a week or two for final fitment review.

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  • Gt4
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    Originally posted by usdmej View Post

    and "companies" like Mile End are why companies like Vorsteiner are still in business. because what does it matter how good a part is if you have to wait indefinitely or jump through hoops to buy it?
    Exact. People can buy whatever they want. Mile End Composite has never been into mass production.

    Anyway, once painted and installed, pretty much all CSL bumper look the same

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  • toy4to
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    Mile End Composites' mounting solution for kevlar bumpers is genius. The splitters are removable and are not pre-installed.

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  • Epoustouflant
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    Originally posted by Gt4 View Post

    Mile End can do both the Aluminum rebar and the kevlar rebar. Those are for the Kevlar version.

    I already have a Mile End CSL bumper, trunk and diffuser on my Laguna Seca M3. The diffuser is from a ‘’new’’ mold that JC did last winter but finally didn’t turn out as good as the first one people have on their car here so he didn’t sold any finally. Working on a new mold this fall.
    That looks really good. Does he pre-install the splitters or they're bonded as part of the bumper? That'd be clever and probably save them from cracking every other Summer.

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  • usdmej
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    Originally posted by Gt4 View Post
    I will just leave this here
    and "companies" like Mile End are why companies like Vorsteiner are still in business. because what does it matter how good a part is if you have to wait indefinitely or jump through hoops to buy it?

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  • jet_dogg
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    Originally posted by Obioban View Post

    Are you referring to the made in Germany Alsatek bumper that Epoustouflant posted? People are getting so aggressive that this thread is hard to follow. Might need some clean up...
    No.

    Originally posted by Epoustouflant View Post

    Trying to keep this factual for everybody else that is reading this and not interacting. There's a lot of actual bullshit going around these cars. Ultimately, you can put whatever you want on your car, as long as you're aware of its +/- and don't try to pass it off as something it isn't.

    Objectively, the Alsatek is a better built unit than anything I was able to find on Vorsteiner and my personal experience with their DVWP E92 CSL trunk. The judgement is up in the air on the new parts and I won't be the one to do pass judgment on it for now.
    It is always nice to see some quality work being posted. I'm not interested in any csl bodywork but it's encouraging to see the options exist for others who are.

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  • Gt4
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    Originally posted by Epoustouflant View Post

    Glad you did, puts things further into perspective. Superb carbon work.

    I had never see the backside of Mile End's - does he replicate and integrates a Kevlar carrier instead of the CSL-like aluminum shock absorbers?

    Are you putting one on your car this year?
    Mile End can do both the Aluminum rebar and the kevlar rebar. Those are for the Kevlar version.

    I already have a Mile End CSL bumper, trunk and diffuser on my Laguna Seca M3. The diffuser is from a ‘’new’’ mold that JC did last winter but finally didn’t turn out as good as the first one people have on their car here so he didn’t sold any finally. Working on a new mold this fall.

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