Where Are We Buying CSL Bumpers These Days?

[0-60motorsports]

I will just leave this here

Beautiful

[Epoustouflant]

I will just leave this here

Glad you did, puts things further into perspective. Superb carbon work.

I had never see the backside of Mile End's - does he replicate and integrates a Kevlar carrier instead of the CSL-like aluminum shock absorbers?

Are you putting one on your car this year?

[Gt4]

I will just leave this here

[Epoustouflant]

I'm not sure why you bothered posting those pics.

People don't mind putting shitty commie sweatshop parts on their cars because they can't afford better.

Trying to keep this factual for everybody else that is reading this and not interacting. There's a lot of actual bullshit going around these cars. Ultimately, you can put whatever you want on your car, as long as you're aware of its +/- and don't try to pass it off as something it isn't.

Objectively, the Alsatek is a better built unit than anything I was able to find on Vorsteiner and my personal experience with their DVWP E92 CSL trunk. The judgement is up in the air on the new parts and I won't be the one to do pass judgment on it for now.

[Obioban]

I'm not sure why you bothered posting those pics.

People don't mind putting shitty commie sweatshop parts on their cars because they can't afford better.

Are you referring to the made in Germany Alsatek bumper that Epoustouflant posted? People are getting so aggressive that this thread is hard to follow. Might need some clean up...

[0-60motorsports]

Spoke to Vorsteiner and details will be released as soon as I get them. There will be old skool VCSL parts along with different versions….I've seen some pics and I'm waiting for more so I can start a new thread with the correct info and prices etc.

[jet_dogg]

I'm not sure why you bothered posting those pics.

People don't mind putting shitty commie sweatshop parts on their cars because they can't afford better.

[Epoustouflant]

I don't know what's more cringe-worthy, the etymology of the name of the brand (I can't even bring myself to type it) or the fact the guy has hoodwinked a large portion of the community into believing his stuff isn't chinese basura and actually coveting it.

Entertain us OG's on what other product was as good as VCSL…

Status Gruppe was dog shit, and a scum bag (Mike Migs) and all the euro scammers that have come and gone, including the CONnex, haven't shown anything in the last 2 decades.

Cost is usually a good indicator of where it's made, along with the underside craftsmanship.

P.S.: Status Gruppe apparently discontinued their CSL bumper.

See below for a BNIB Vorsteiner V2 DWVP front bumper sold privately in 2021.

For reference, this kit apparently sold for 850 US in 2008.










Here's another used version from 2016. This was roughly 1,800 US back then according to the poster here.



The Vorsteiner splitters also appeared to be 2x2 - unlike OEM which is 1x1.





For reference, the Alsatek unit.

[usdmej]

Status Gruppe was dog shit, and a scum bag (Mike Migs) and all the euro scammers that have come and gone, including the CONnex, haven't shown anything in the last 2 decades.

this is always hard to hear about Mike since my only dealings with him were back when he was less well known and his high work ethic could keep up with demand. unfortunately, he couldn't stop over-promising and under-delivering when things picked up for his company, and unfortunately seems to have passed along that business ethic to whoever is running the company now. their carbon fiber products always had decent to good enough fitment though


and imo euroconnex doesn't appear to be a scam company, i just don't care to buy mostly meh products from a guy that can't stop being openly psychopathic

[usdmej]

the fact the guy has hoodwinked a large portion of the community into believing his stuff isn't chinese basura and actually coveting it.

Entertain us OG's on what other product was as good as VCSL…

yea seriously, not sure why you have this delusion of how Vorsteiner is perceived but to me at least, they've always been the company that can reliably bring small volume products to market, that aren't a total nightmare to fit. that's why they've moved onto higher end cars, and that's probably how/why they've been successful with Gunther Werks (too many high end customers wanting a faster delivery time than what singer can offer)

[jet_dogg]

His Guntherwerks cars are amazing having seen them first hand. The VSCL front bumper was woven fiberglass back then. He marketed it as DVWP. It's a little different to pre-preg carbon autoclave in regards to material quality.

One thing is certain: you won't find me dissing a company with a proven track record.



I will definitely discredit opinions on a product's quality from individual with lack of hands on experience - in this case, that's you.

Anyone with any sort of sense can see what you did in that thread I linked. As always, jet_dogg has a way with brutal honesty.



The fact you're inferring Alsatek doesn't fit as well after all this is by definition being butt hurt.

You can just own up to it or triple down. No harm done.

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Anyways, back to chatting CSL bumpers. Here's a dual hole snorkel produced this month for a member of EuroConnex. It carries a little extra as the cut outs are done afterwards - and then blended in during paint.

I don't know what's more cringe-worthy, the etymology of the name of the brand (I can't even bring myself to type it) or the fact the guy has hoodwinked a large portion of the community into believing his stuff isn't chinese basura and actually coveting it.

[0-60motorsports]

Thanks again 0-60 for setting up the V buy!

I would say My pleasure but it isn't setup yet LOL. Once it will be and can be done I'll update you guys. Cheers for the support.

[Chas3n]

Thanks again 0-60 for setting up the V buy!

[Epoustouflant]

You're asking me rhetorical questions for which I don't have answers. I don't know how you make your money - nor does it matter, I can see you make/have/spend a lot.

Good for you on the Genuine CSL parts, that's baller.

I wish you the best!

[0-60motorsports]

My bad, it says senior member on the left. I figured anyone looking to make money here with group buys and such should be titled commercial vendors.

IamFODI am I doing this right?

I only wanted to pay back the community for years of helping me out by setting up an intro offer with Vorst directly (I'll have nothing to do with it, in fact I'll be getting the same offer). I mean at least do ONE a thing for the community to show my gratitude. If I wanted to make money you dont think I would have done that years ago on the forums?

Also I have all OE CSL parts (minus front bumper) on my car so right now for me personally I would only go for an intake so I can use the OE CSL intake for decor in the shop.