Where Are We Buying CSL Bumpers These Days?

[Obioban]

With the hindsight of time, most of my Vorsteiner parts are literally falling apart. I've definitely gotten higher quality CF parts from other vendors.

[Chas3n]

I first gave you a link to order here. Linking your posts is merely an attention to the facts, there is no vile or emotionally driven intention.



A German sweatshop with an autoclave, nothing more.



It has been for a minute, I agree : )

I am not upset, and how you feel about that doesn't mean anything to me. My intentions are to clarify the confusion brought about and provide information on the availability of a quality CSL bumper, right now, for E46 M3 owners that are searching for one.

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In an effort to keep this thread on topic, here's some more pictures of the widened fenders in test fitment, and paint. You can order them here, or wait a few weeks for this Fall's limited pre-order.

Posting a small link, and only after someone else had responded to me about the company is my circumventing you?

I sincerely hope you can move on with your life and stop making a fool of yourself with these links to old posts that are out of context and reality. Keep post stalking though, it's entertaining me on a slow day.



Thanks 0-60 for the V-CSL pm! Looking forward to having another 46 csl clone, again.


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[Epoustouflant]

This looks so sexy. One day when I've finished with everything mechanical I'll get around to doing the CSL exterior bits too. I probably missed it in your build thread but which blue is this, Interlagos?

Thanks dude! It's San Marino Blue Metallic from the M4 CS.

I hesitated between Marina Bay Blue and it. Here's my entry on it.

[gaiakai]

This looks so sexy. One day when I've finished with everything mechanical I'll get around to doing the CSL exterior bits too. I probably missed it in your build thread but which blue is this, Interlagos?

[Epoustouflant]

Perhaps on a pc browser you show as a vendor or sponsor? On Tapatalk, which I'm on 99% of the time, you are nothing more than another member, so how would I ASSume that you were directly trying to sell me that bumper? Who don't chase my posts around the forums butthurt over an incident that didn't happen at all like they believe.

I first gave you a link to order here. Linking your posts is merely an attention to the facts, there is no vile or emotionally driven intention.

Enjoy your euro made sweatshop bumpers.

A German sweatshop with an autoclave, nothing more.

This is a stupid conversation now, you're upset because you believed I tried to “undercut” you.

It has been for a minute, I agree : )

I am not upset, and how you feel about that doesn't mean anything to me. My intentions are to clarify the confusion brought about and provide information on the availability of a quality CSL bumper, right now, for E46 M3 owners that are searching for one.

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In an effort to keep this thread on topic, here's some more pictures of the widened fenders in test fitment, and paint. You can order them here, or wait a few weeks for this Fall's limited pre-order.

[Chas3n]

Perhaps on a pc browser you show as a vendor or sponsor? On Tapatalk, which I'm on 99% of the time, you are nothing more than another member, so how would I ASSume that you were directly trying to sell me that bumper?

This is a stupid conversation now, you're upset because you believed I tried to “undercut” you. For fucks sake.. enjoy your euro made sweatshop bumpers, again I'll be ordering from a tried and true American company with lots of history to back up their products and who don't chase my posts around the forums butthurt over an incident that didn't happen at all like they believe. Cheers mate


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[Epoustouflant]

Given their success over the last decade+ I can't think of a single reason to order from anyone else.

As a matter of factual correctness, you were a link away from ordering the Alsatek.

For what it's worth to anyone interested in contacting the Alsatek company, their email sales rep is likely one of the worst sales people I've ever communicated with. As someone in sales/management, it's mind boggling to me how their rep could be that poor at making a sale.

6+ emails back and forth and still no link to purchase nor a solid/exact price quote on shipping to my location. I believe they just lost my business and respect.

You ended up not purchasing, and then called me overpriced. Interestingly enough, AlphaN sells that very same bumper for 3,000 EUROS today.

Just to sum things up here: you asked for the best CSL bumper, I showed you Alsatek, you were interested enough to try to undercut me, still asked me various questions after the fact, then complained about the guy, and called me an insufferable children and a conman in the process.

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IamFODI am I doing alright here?

Have yet to see detailed photos of their bumper installed. As per normal with these European companies coming in to the forums.

There are plenty.

Here are a few showing the widened fender fitment as a bonus.

V made a CF version, owned 2 of their normal bumpers and 1 of their full carbon ones. This was back in 09. My only complaint was their trunks could be a little iffy on adjustment, but they were far ahead of any competition they had back then.

Alsatek has been manufacturing composite components for OEM GT3 and GT4 Motorsport teams in Germany since 1999. As an example, they have made the WTCC E90 wide body carbon kit.

In other news, the E46 products were inspiration to develop new kits for other M cars. Here's the latest widened front end kit we developed together for the M3 V8, along with a carbon trunk that will be the basis for the CSL E92 trunk. Both are on the way to me to document and fit.

[gaiakai]

Could you post a screenshot of what he posted?

And the reason I mention seats and wheels is because these were highlighted in the post:

[Chas3n]

Have yet to see detailed photos of their bumper installed. As per normal with these European companies coming in to the forums.

V made a CF version, owned 2 of their normal bumpers and 1 of their full carbon ones. This was back in 09. My only complaint was their trunks could be a little iffy on adjustment, but they were far ahead of any competition they had back then. Given their success over the last decade+ I can't think of a single reason to order from anyone else.

[Epoustouflant]

I'm going VCSL, money much better spent with an American company.

His Guntherwerks cars are amazing having seen them first hand. The VSCL front bumper was woven fiberglass back then. He marketed it as DVWP. It's a little different to pre-preg carbon autoclave in regards to material quality.

One thing is certain: you won't find me dissing a company with a proven track record.

Holy Batman butthurt! Conman do you just wait for an opportunity to blast those you don't drink your overpriced koolaid!?

I will definitely discredit opinions on a product's quality from individual with lack of hands on experience - in this case, that's you.

Anyone with any sort of sense can see what you did in that thread I linked. As always, jet_dogg has a way with brutal honesty.

I think my favorite part in all of this is that he used you for information so that he could circumvent you for the part.

The fact you're inferring Alsatek doesn't fit as well after all this is by definition being butt hurt.

You can just own up to it or triple down. No harm done.

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Anyways, back to chatting CSL bumpers. Here's a dual hole snorkel produced this month for a member of EuroConnex. It carries a little extra as the cut outs are done afterwards - and then blended in during paint.

[9kracing]

Holy Batman butthurt! Conman do you just wait for an opportunity to blast those you don't drink your overpriced koolaid!?

I'm going VCSL, money much better spent with an American company.

LOL, I just read your thread where you're looking for a bumper.

What a jackass.

[Chas3n]

Holy Batman butthurt! Conman do you just wait for an opportunity to blast those you don't drink your overpriced koolaid!?

I'm going VCSL, money much better spent with an American company.

[Epoustouflant]

I had always intended on buying a Mile End Composites CSL front bumper and rear diffuser, but the owner apparently completely disappeared a couple of years ago. Recently got the piece right behind the convertible top for my '04 Laguna Seca Blue repainted as it had spent a couple years outside in my driveway and the clear coat was bubbling and coming off in multiple locations.

Moved to a new house with a 2 car garage and figured it was time to get that fixed so i did. Unfortunately, a spot of the clear also bubbled on the front bumper. I asked the body shop if they could just do a localized repair and respray of the clear there, but they said no and it'd be around $1,400 to have to whole bumper repainted. Under prior ownership there was, apparently, a small frontal impact that left a small raised area and crack on the top of the bumper. Not noticeable unless you look closely, but I'm not going to pay that much to have an imperfect front bumper painted.

1,400$ to properly respray a front bumper is expensive, for a spot repair, it's robbery.

So, now's the time to slap a CSL bumper on there like I've always dreamed of! Where are the best quality CSL bumpers coming from these days?

Also, did anyone ever figure out WTF happened to the Mile End Composites guy? Did covid get him, did he borrow money from the wrong people and have both his knees broken?

There is a proper fitting 1:1 CSL bumper replica in pre-preg & autoclave carbon, with 1x1 splitters. Dual snorkel is optional for track guys or whoever likes the look. It's made in Germany, from a company that also offers +10mm carbon widened fenders.

The bumper roughly 3,000 US. Link to spec one. Shipping is 300$ via DHL economy and I can get them duty free to Canada via CETA.

If you can wait, I will do a limited pre-order special this Fall on the fenders and bumper once my car is back together.

It has the integrated bumper carrier, you only need to bolt on the shock absorbers from the aluminum carrier - just like the original CSL. See below.

The irony of watching so many companies struggle the past decade+ to produce a bumper that fit as well as the VCSL's

Chas3n tried ordering a bumper but failed. For him to infer Alsatek failed at making a quality fitting part is ironic in itself.

I have had both on my E46, and can actually attest to quality. Feel free to ask me anything.

[0-60motorsports]

If you wouldn't mind, PM me when there's more details! I'm waiting patiently for a VCSL front bumper and diffuser.

The irony of watching so many companies struggle the past decade+ to produce a bumper that fit as well as the VCSL's


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I spoke to Vorst last night. I'll post up info as soon as I get it.

[nyc951]

CEO of Vorsteiner just posted about his e46 m3 on IG yesterday teasing something for their 20th anniversary and SEMA, so fingers crossed. Of course it could probably just be wheels and seats.

Could you post a screenshot of what he posted?