Heinz > You can drive mine if you're ever down here.
And ya unfortunately the state requirements override the federal ones, we cannot put a "regular" engine into a SULEV car and register it legally here
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I've never driven a 128 but have plenty of seat time in 135s (both N54 and N55) and IMHO the biggest issue with them was not the engine but the chassis. Way too much soft rubber absolutely everywhere, not to mention the open diff. I'd swap M3 subframes/suspension etc before I'd swap an S65.
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Originally posted by kaiv View Post
I also kept the stock location steering shaft but looking at that photo and how low the engine sits, I'm guessing concessions were made elsewhere.
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Originally posted by YoitsTmac View Post
The person I interviewed years ago was able to do his with no steering shaft modifications. Very few parts were modified / most were OE.
Here's a pic of the build I saw: https://www.builtforredline.com/wp-c...3-s65-swap.jpg
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Originally posted by TexaZ3 View Post
Nice setup. I'm half disappointed E36 is not a Hellrot or Mugello....just kidding!
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Originally posted by heinzboehmer View PostTo be fair, I've never driven the car actually hard (i.e. not on the road). Was so close to sneaking it on track at Laguna a couple weeks back, but the logistics didn't end up working out. But I have to say that I really like the short wheelbase. Gives it a very lively character, especially at slower speeds. Dash (and armrest!) creak is super annoying though.
And you're right, I don't want anything to do with a turbo, hence the talk of grabbing my E82 and swapping all the E9X M3 stuff in
If you need help wiring a E9x swap into an E82, I can help you out with the electronics side.
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To be fair, I've never driven the car actually hard (i.e. not on the road). Was so close to sneaking it on track at Laguna a couple weeks back, but the logistics didn't end up working out. But I have to say that I really like the short wheelbase. Gives it a very lively character, especially at slower speeds. Dash (and armrest!) creak is super annoying though.
And you're right, I don't want anything to do with a turbo, hence the talk of grabbing my E82 and swapping all the E9X M3 stuff in
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Honestly, I hated the e82 chassis other than the increased front end grip from e46. The short wheelbase felt funny, the front cowl/dash creaks horribly. The e90 M3 is leaps and bounds better imo, but my e82 was a 128i (slicktop/6mt), not the 1m which has e9x M parts.
And I'm suprised either of you'd want anything to do with a turbo, but I know it's not the old days anymore. Just philosophically, N/A bmw engines were peak engineering. An engine to be used with a turbo is "dumbed" down. Total power output is increased, but the engine is worse, the feel, the sound etc. Cheap power. Like microwaving cold pizza instead of a hot brick oven.
Best thing you could do with the e82 would be an S65 imo.
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Originally posted by kaiv View Post
It really is! It's quintessential old school BMW fun. Not too big, not too heavy, both ends of the car do exactly what you want with great feel/communication coming through. It reminds me of the E36 in some ways which is the car that made me fall in love with BMWs to begin with.
I have a lot of E9X M parts including a complete S65 I could be talked into selling if you're interested 😅
And man don't do this to me. That thing is supposed to be the reliable daily that is never down because of projects!
No, but in all seriousness, it's an N51 car, so need to figure out how to make the swap legal. Which really means it either needs to become an unregistered track car or I need to exchange it for another chassis. Fortunately non-Ms are cheap, so it shouldn't be a big deal. But yeah, project for down the line.
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Originally posted by kaiv View Post
Oh man, I am 100% down to do the ZHP but the S65... I'm not sure I have it in me to do it all over again. While I did save most of the parts, there are forced compromises to fit it and make it work on the E46 chassis that don't make it a 100% OE style fully integrated swap...
Here's a pic of the build I saw: https://www.builtforredline.com/wp-c...3-s65-swap.jpg
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Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post
Hell yeah, have always like those. Bet that thing is a blast to drive. One day my E82 will receive the power/drivetrain from an E9X M3...
I have a lot of E9X M parts including a complete S65 I could be talked into selling if you're interested 😅
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Originally posted by Chas3n View Post
When are you ready to take both 46's? Looking for replace the s54 with an s65 and the m54 with the s54 😬
Congrats yourself! I've always been so impressed with the e87 1 series, and the 1M was just mind blowingly good!
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The other car is a 2002 Lemans M5. I'll bet not the only one here with that E46/E39 M combo.
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Originally posted by kaiv View Post
Added a 1M to the stable recently. I can't believe how good the front end is compared to the E9X M given that's it's essentially the same hardware. And the rear end just begs to step out, such a hooligan. It's rowdy and buckets of fun. Feels faster than it probably is. I'm completely smitten!
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