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Is there any info on Rogues new equal length mid pipe or at least test videos?
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It’s worth checking for each user, but it appears that US is specifically the odd duck that crosses over. Euro and aftermarket seem to all match each other.Originally posted by Tbonem3 View PostIs it u.s. versus euro or us/euro versus supersprint tubulare and all the other aftermarket copies?
I thought the only difference between us and euro were the cats.
Runner and post-merge lengths of aftermarket headers are likely to be different for aftermarket headers than for euro headers though, so really this should be considered specific to euro headers.
Ideally this is all solved before section 1. I’m sufficiently displeased with the market here that I’ve started developing my own equal length stepped header that will also have equal length tubes post merge, updates are in my build thread.
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Almost certainly those swap cars do not have the h-pipe, so the unequal pulses would be ‘mixing’ through filters in the muffler. The unequal length is relevant specifically before the h-pipe to smooth the sound.Originally posted by tnord View PostI'm of the opinion that there's still a better exhaust solution waiting to be developed, maybe this is it.
I've seen too many videos of S54 swapped e30/e36/etc that don't sound anything like the e46. It's almost as if you can't screw it up when the S54 is in a different chassis. I know these are all single exit cars, but I have a bit of a hard time believing that's it.
(1:50 mark has the best clip)
(0:34 mark is from behind the car)
Look closely at photos of headers installed on the engine.Originally posted by Ragincajun5220 View PostAre we sure the euro and us headers are different lengths?
just looking at these pics of both I’m having trouble visualizing that they mount up differently because to my eye they look the same? Maybe we can reach out to rogue to get their take
of course it is possible I am missing something here.
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Are we sure the euro and us headers are different lengths?
just looking at these pics of both I’m having trouble visualizing that they mount up differently because to my eye they look the same? Maybe we can reach out to rogue to get their take
of course it is possible I am missing something here.
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I'm of the opinion that there's still a better exhaust solution waiting to be developed, maybe this is it.
I've seen too many videos of S54 swapped e30/e36/etc that don't sound anything like the e46. It's almost as if you can't screw it up when the S54 is in a different chassis. I know these are all single exit cars, but I have a bit of a hard time believing that's it.
(1:50 mark has the best clip)
(0:34 mark is from behind the car)
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Good distinction Raj. And, what would it sound like? Very interesting, good catch Bryson.
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If i'm understanding correctly - aftermarket headers switch which bank goes to what exhaust pipe? i never realized thatOriginally posted by Bry5on View PostWord to the wise: This is NOT compatible with US headers. In US headers, the short runner that needs extension is on the PASSENGER side.
And second clarification - this means they will still fit, but will not sound as intended?
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Can someone post the cost to purchase the mid pipes in non-cat and one with CATs. I assume CATS would be hi-flow units.
Thank you in advance.
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Word to the wise: This is NOT compatible with US headers. In US headers, the short runner that needs extension is on the PASSENGER side.
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I'd be interested in equal length headers as well.Originally posted by Bry5on View Post
I'd buy one of these. Now if only they could make their headers equal length too
..and make the joint flanged 
Unfortunately Achilles is the only other option and they only make them if they have the car, which is not viable for me being located in Europe.
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I’d buy one of these. Now if only they could make their headers equal length tooOriginally posted by Obioban View PostI’m pretty sure I could sell SS on offering this, catted and catless, if there is a difference. They were happy to develop the twin tube section 2 when I requested it…
..and make the joint flanged
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Sell them on it. We can flood the comments on their IG to solidify the demand 😎Originally posted by Obioban View PostI'm pretty sure I could sell SS on offering this, catted and catless, if there is a difference. They were happy to develop the twin tube section 2 when I requested it…
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