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I hear you, but I am not an expert, and all the guides were saying to retard the cams before removing the VANOS. If I start dismissing what the guides say, it gets very muddy very quickly as to what to pay attention to and what not to.
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I would be afraid to wack the wrench of breaking the hollow, high carbon fragile cam. You eventually have to remove the vanos and the hubs, then why not removing them first then turn the cam at ease?Originally posted by Bob Sacamano View PostI got it, but it took some pretty hard wacks with a rubber mallet to the wrench. Not my favorite method, but it eventually got it to rotate. Now on to the seals.
.Last edited by sapote; 10-12-2025, 07:37 PM.
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Yes, it has good amount of resistance but should not locked up that requires rocking the cam back/forth to get it moving. The rockings are to unlock the helical splined shaft from the hub.Originally posted by Slideways View Post
They will not. I recently reinstalled cams and when one of the lobes starts pressing down on a valve, it will have a good amount of resistance.
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They will not. I recently reinstalled cams and when one of the lobes starts pressing down on a valve, it will have a good amount of resistance.Originally posted by sapote View Post
Haha, I'm sure he's not 7 yrs old.
Cam with no connection to the splined shaft will turn easily over the valve springs.
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I pulled with all my effort but that didn't get the exhaust to budge. I got it, but it took some pretty hard wacks with a rubber mallet to the wrench. Not my favorite method, but it eventually got it to rotate. Now on to the seals.
Appreciate your help, everyone.
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He is fighting valve spring pressure, that is all.Originally posted by sapote View PostOP already removed the solenoid pack and the vanos front caps, so pressurized oil by the piston is not the reason for hard to turn the cam. It's the helical cut on the splined shaft that resists the turn.
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OP already removed the solenoid pack and the vanos front caps, so pressurized oil by the piston is not the reason for hard to turn the cam. It's the helical cut on the splined shaft that resists the turn.Originally posted by BL92 View Postthe reason it is jammed cause there is still oil trapped in the vanos piston and it can not move back any further
taking off the caps like the fatboys garage video did will assist in draining the vanos of oil
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As above
rock the cam back and forth until oil squirts out from under the vanos
chuck a rag under the vanos to save mess
the reason it is jammed cause there is still oil trapped in the vanos piston and it can not move back any further
taking off the caps like the fatboys garage video did will assist in draining the vanos of oil
BS021 kit should have replacement o rings for the end caps
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I get doing it that way from the perspective of someone hasn't done any real internal engine work, its intimidating.
Beisan is trying to have comprehensive instructions that are laid out in order to reduce mistakes so they can sell more products to DIY people likely.
I forgot about this step, and while not strictly necessary I do remember wanting to follow their directions to the T as I was still pretty green when it came to things like that.
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I think the reason the instructions tell you to do it that way is two fold:
1. to make sure you actually have the timing tool before removing the vanos
2. measure to see if timing was off before vanos removal
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I don't know why people doing the hard way.Originally posted by Bob Sacamano View Post
Just so I understand: why then does everyone suggest fully retarding the cams and confirming with the timing block before removing the VANOS?
I just remove the vanos and loosen the hub bolts, then it's easy to turn the cams.
Nothing's wrong with removing the vanos before setting the cams to TDC, as long as the crank is already at the TDC.
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Rock the cam back and forth slightly to get it to move and then fully retard it. You are doing this so you can push the exhaust splined shaft forward and easily access the connection between exhaust splined gear and VANOS exhaust piston to undo them with the 7mm and 10mm wrenches.Originally posted by Bob Sacamano View Post
Just so I understand: why then does everyone suggest fully regarding the cams and confirming with the timing block before removing the VANOS?
Continue following the Beisan instructions.
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Just so I understand: why then does everyone suggest fully retarding the cams and confirming with the timing block before removing the VANOS?Originally posted by sapote View PostYou have to remove the hubs to get to the cam sleeve bolts, and this makes turning the cams so easyLast edited by Bob Sacamano; 10-11-2025, 05:46 PM.
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You have to remove the hubs to get to the cam sleeve bolts, and this makes turning the cams so easy
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