Review: Cobra Nogaro seats (uniquely street friendly fixed back bucket seat)

[Tbonem3]

il tri-colore

[D-O]

Anyone have any experience with Cobra's reclining seats?

Jesse

[Obioban]

Since people ask me about this every time I mention this seat is uniquely (only non stock seat) certified to use with the quick fit, here's the cert:

CoC_Cobra_Nogaro_Seat_MGA_2019.pdf

[Johnvu]

Above ---- I JUST got around to putting in my Alcantara (fake) Cobra inserts in my seats. Love em ….. also had them do black stitching custom

Damn, those look so good. This thread has sold me on getting these in the future lol. Hopefully they will do some sort of sale in the future.

[LeeForst]

Above ---- I JUST got around to putting in my Alcantara (fake) Cobra inserts in my seats. Love em ….. also had them do black stitching custom

[LeeForst]

[Lip]

Man I wish we could still see all the photos from the Nogaro picture thread on M3F. Several members did some trim customizations I wish I could still see.

I contacted Relicate and they sent over a sample of their Clay Pot full grain leather. It's a very close match to my cinnamon which I just cleaned and conditioned (once conditioned, the leather is darker and color is richer). I would say cinnamon is very slightly more rich in color and the Relicate Clay Pot is more dull.

I also asked for a matching alcantara to see if I should trim the middle differently. They sent over Hazelnut foam backed alcantara but the match isn't close enough.

My order will include custom trimming to mimic the CSL seat but in cinnamon. Cost to do so adds an additional $600 per seat. Steep but Cobra checked every single box like Obi outlined in the OP

[Casa de Mesa]

Well absolutely awesome upgrade. Thanks for sharing the details with the community. I'm taking notes!

[Obioban]

I'm used to a lot of metal around a fixed back seat, but thought my mindset could be dated. Appreciate the response.

What type of seats and restraints are you talking about? Super interested to hear more if it's not too much of a thread hijack.

PS. Note the triangles...

(properly designed) Metal around the seat is good around the seat, if you're fully restrained and wearing a helmet. Metal near your head when wearing a 3 point and/or no helmet is not. Wearing a 3 point, you move around a ton in a crash.

These days I mostly design seats for military and commercial vehicles, mostly with integrated seatbelts.

[Casa de Mesa]

Ha, well, weirdly I've given this a ton of thought, as I designed seat/restraint systems for a living. The longstanding myth that a reclining seat is better in a rollover has always bothered me, as it makes no sense. The load requirements on seat backs mean you're getting crushed either way, if the roof comes in-- your body forcing the seat to recline by being crushed by the roof isn't going to keep you alive.

I'm used to a lot of metal around a fixed back seat, but thought my mindset could be dated. Appreciate the response.

What type of seats and restraints are you talking about? Super interested to hear more if it's not too much of a thread hijack.

PS. Note the triangles...

[Obioban]

Cool. Been a while since I've heard a verdict on this one so figured I'd ask. I was thinking of doing the same, hence the real motivation behind the question.

And agree on the rollbar safety issue. Even with the proper rated padding wrapped around it (i.e., not pipe insulation), that padding is for use with helmets. And even then... you don't want to hit it.

Ha, well, weirdly I've given this a ton of thought, as I designed seat/restraint systems for a living. The longstanding myth that a reclining seat is better in a rollover has always bothered me, as it makes no sense. The load requirements on seat backs mean you're getting crushed either way, if the roof comes in-- your body forcing the seat to recline by being crushed by the roof isn't going to keep you alive.

[Casa de Mesa]

No— there’s nothing riskier about a fixed back than a reclining seat in a roll over. That’s an old myth that somehow keeps getting perpetuated, but there no data behind it. Stock cars are available with fixed backseats without roll bars in every country other than USA (including the e46– the CSL (or GTR)). Additionally, rollbars (that are in a functional position to actually help you in a roll) are a huge safety hazard when you’re not wearing a helmet/harness, so that would make me very uncomfortable.

Cool. Been a while since I've heard a verdict on this one so figured I'd ask. I was thinking of doing the same, hence the real motivation behind the question.

And agree on the rollbar safety issue. Even with the proper rated padding wrapped around it (i.e., not pipe insulation), that padding is for use with helmets. And even then... you don't want to hit it.

[Obioban]

Hey not trying to pee in the Cheerios (honest question here), but do fixed back seats spook you on a shared duty car (street and track) in the event of a rollover? I didn't see a rollbar in your car.

EDIT: that setup looks spectacular. Meant to include that and fat fingered the post button on my phone...

No— there’s nothing riskier about a fixed back than a reclining seat in a roll over. That’s an old myth that somehow keeps getting perpetuated, but there no data behind it. Stock cars are available with fixed backseats without roll bars in every country other than USA (including the e46– the CSL (or GTR)). Additionally, rollbars (that are in a functional position to actually help you in a roll) are a huge safety hazard when you’re not wearing a helmet/harness, so that would make me very uncomfortable.

[Casa de Mesa]

Hey not trying to pee in the Cheerios (honest question here), but do fixed back seats spook you on a shared duty car (street and track) in the event of a rollover? I didn't see a rollbar in your car.

EDIT: that setup looks spectacular. Meant to include that and fat fingered the post button on my phone...

[IND-Distribution]

Thanks for bringing your write-up over from M3F. Very detailed and good insight.