Tires. What is every one running?

[mrgizmo04]

Data point on rs pro. Front right tire pictured below after morning session and then after few more sessions in the afternoon. 3rd track day. Other 3 tires looked fine without any bubbling/delamination, although right rear barely started blistering on the outside after the last session. Aimed to run them 32-34 hot.

Not sure if bad batch. Heard rr did this, didnt hear about rs pro. Size is 255 35 18, thread width wise about as wide as 265 ps4s.



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[EthanolTurbo]

I thought we were way past v12s, silicone elbows, and smoked leds .

Just head over to e46fanatics. Let this forum be for us robots who mindlessly think that OE plus high quality mods is "the way."

Brutal. 😂😂😂

[liam821]

We went through two sets of DWS on the Mazda 3 we had prior to the X5. they didn't last all that long and were loud as hell after about 5k miles. do not buy them. I opted to keep the runflats on the wife's car for my own personal convenience. it's our road trip car too, having a flat on a 315/35/20 in the middle of Iowa, western Kansas, or Colorado is not something I want to have to deal with.

Don't blame you there!

[tnord]

My dad has those Pirelli's on his X5 and he really likes them. He hated the DWS it had on before, mushy sidewalls and meh performance.

I took our X5 out on Big Willow at Willow Springs race park with the DWSs for grins since I broke my race car and still had track time at the end of the day. After two laps the DWS's started to get really greasy. Pulled in after 3 laps and the tread was already starting to melt...they just can't deal with the heat and weight of the X5.

You can get Pilot Sport 4S in 20s for the X5...perhaps that might work better for you since you have a dedicated snow tire.

We went through two sets of DWS on the Mazda 3 we had prior to the X5. they didn't last all that long and were loud as hell after about 5k miles. do not buy them. I opted to keep the runflats on the wife's car for my own personal convenience. it's our road trip car too, having a flat on a 315/35/20 in the middle of Iowa, western Kansas, or Colorado is not something I want to have to deal with.

[liam821]

I thought the DWS was awful. I keep putting the Pirelli runflats on the wife's X5 M sport that came in the same sizes as your diesel. We have dedicated snows also or I'd consider the AS3.

My dad has those Pirelli's on his X5 and he really likes them. He hated the DWS it had on before, mushy sidewalls and meh performance.

I took our X5 out on Big Willow at Willow Springs race park with the DWSs for grins since I broke my race car and still had track time at the end of the day. After two laps the DWS's started to get really greasy. Pulled in after 3 laps and the tread was already starting to melt...they just can't deal with the heat and weight of the X5.

You can get Pilot Sport 4S in 20s for the X5...perhaps that might work better for you since you have a dedicated snow tire.

Great to hear. I just had the same sizes put on this week but in the AS4 model which is now available.

Oh wow, yeah those are new. I think they're called "Pilot Sport All Season 4" in tirerack yeah? $1133 shipped. Not bad at all. I will for sure get a set once my AS3's are won out. I have the Pilot Sport A/3 3 N-Spec (for a Porsche Panamera) on it now.

[jbfrancis3]

I run AS3s on our diesel X5 with the sport package (275f 315r 20") and they've been wonderful. More grip than you'd expect, quiet, and can deal with mild winters. We have about 15k miles or so on them and they're doing fine - I think I can easily get 30k on them. I like them better than the Continential DWS I had on before (gone through 3 sets) - which are okay, last nearly 40k miles which is nice, but meh in almost every other way. I've had three sets of DWS because there wasn't much option - and I refuse to pay $1800 for a set of the OE Dunlops which came on it new which lasted 11k miles! I'm happy I can get the AS3s in the correct size for the X5 now.

Great to hear. I just had the same sizes put on this week but in the AS4 model which is now available.

[tnord]

I thought the DWS was awful. I keep putting the Pirelli runflats on the wife's X5 M sport that came in the same sizes as your diesel. We have dedicated snows also or I'd consider the AS3.

[liam821]

The AS3’s are a fantastic tire. That is what we put on the RS for 3 season weather up in CO and would definitely suggest them for anyone who sees mild winters


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I run AS3s on our diesel X5 with the sport package (275f 315r 20") and they've been wonderful. More grip than you'd expect, quiet, and can deal with mild winters. We have about 15k miles or so on them and they're doing fine - I think I can easily get 30k on them. I like them better than the Continential DWS I had on before (gone through 3 sets) - which are okay, last nearly 40k miles which is nice, but meh in almost every other way. I've had three sets of DWS because there wasn't much option - and I refuse to pay $1800 for a set of the OE Dunlops which came on it new which lasted 11k miles! I'm happy I can get the AS3s in the correct size for the X5 now.

[fattycharged]

I really liked the Bridgestone RE-11. Good street tire, but not as comfy as the comparable Michelin, but stiffer sidewalls and better on track. It was a good compromise for me to have a tire I could drive to/on/from the track without having two sets of wheels.

There really is not a better summer street tire than the PS4S. I was in a pinch where I had a tire blow out and had to have my car towed to the nearest tire place. All they had was Michelin A/S 3+... so I had to go with those. I had limited experience and no real HARD driving on them, but they were a really great street tire. Quiet, comfy, good grip, great rain grip, were wearing really well. Didn't tramline nearly as bad as the RE11 did. Just a good tire. Not quite as grippy as the Ultra high performance summer category, but they had plenty of grip. They are probably pretty good for a geographic area that doesn't see much snow, but sees cooler weather and maybe a dusting or two and doesn't want to switch from PS4S to dedicated snow tires every year. They also wear better than the UHP tires.

The AS3’s are a fantastic tire. That is what we put on the RS for 3 season weather up in CO and would definitely suggest them for anyone who sees mild winters


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[Nick_P]

how's the noise/wear on them?

From a noise level they're great actually, you can't hear them at all. I can't really speak about wear though since I only bought them in March. I have about 1,000-2,000 miles on them on the street with 3 track days, so far they have been holding up well. In heavy rain they can get sketchy though

[r4dr]

^ This matches what I've heard about the A052s. IMO it's why they never caught on in popularity.

[SG/IRM3]

how's the noise/wear on them?

Since my earlier post in this thread regarding the A052s I've done three more track days so will update my experience with them after several years of using the RE-71 for track and autocross events. While, as I mentioned earlier, the grip appears to be on a similar level to the Bridgestone the wear is much worse. After three autocross events (31 runs total) and four track days (total of nineteen 20-30 minute sessions) they are toast - as in at or below the wear bars on all four tires. This at least twice the wear I experienced on the RE-71s and is unacceptable IMO so I won't be getting them again. I will reiterate that they don't get greasy like the RE-71. Street mileage is about 1500 miles.

I'll add that my car is well set up with 3.5 f/2.0 rear camber and a typical alignment for track or or autocross so it's not a situation of lack of camber or improper alignment. A contributing factor to right side shoulder wear is my local track is a roval which includes a NASCAR banked turn with 11 degree banking which is tough on right side tires with the CCW direction. But I ran the Bridgestones and Dunlop Star Specs on the same track without experiencing that kind of wear.

On the street, they are much quieter than the RE-71 and not quite as harsh since the sidewalls are a little softer but they are firmer than a typical street tire. I guess I'll spend the off season deciding on options for next year but the Yoks are off my list. Although I doubt I'll get three sets of tires at this point in a perfect scenario I'd run PS4S for the street, RE-71 for autocross and NT-01 or RS4 for track days.

[Obioban]

It went from wet to dry... I was just saying it was damp. Once it stopped raining and the line dried out, they got too hot too fast.

That particular day was a ton of fun though. It poured rain in the morning. The track was really wet and so the sessions were really empty. Around lunch time, the track was drying but everyone had gone home, so they opened the track up for just open lapping for everyone that was left. I actually got more than a full tank of gas worth of track time in a single day. Probably the best day ive ever had at the track. But you can be suspicious all you want. As soon as the line was dry enough to put heat in tires, they got too greesy to work and I went to dedicated dry track tires.

Ha, you should try some east coast tracking! I always need to get gas at lunch and again at end of day (both time with ~1/4 in the tank)!

[cozmo kraemer]

I'm suspicious of this experience. Even hoosier wets, if the track is actually wet, show negligible wear after an entire race.

It went from wet to dry... I was just saying it was damp. Once it stopped raining and the line dried out, they got too hot too fast.

That particular day was a ton of fun though. It poured rain in the morning. The track was really wet and so the sessions were really empty. Around lunch time, the track was drying but everyone had gone home, so they opened the track up for just open lapping for everyone that was left. I actually got more than a full tank of gas worth of track time in a single day. Probably the best day ive ever had at the track. But you can be suspicious all you want. As soon as the line was dry enough to put heat in tires, they got too greesy to work and I went to dedicated dry track tires.

[tnord]

They also stopped making the RE11 so I guess experience with them is also pointless. I thinke the A032r might sort of be an equivalent now...or the RS4.

I only used the PSS on track once, it was a rain day and I had track tires. I threw them on the car as they were my streets. Even on a damp track they got too hot to work. When you first were heating them up they were ok, but once they got hot and that was really quick, they never recovered.

I'm suspicious of this experience. Even hoosier wets, if the track is actually wet, show negligible wear after an entire race.