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  • jvit27
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    Originally posted by Tbonem3 View Post
    Correct. Spacers limit travel. If a damper is known for a short stroke like Ohlins or Billys, the mods you'd want to do (for travel, in order to be lowlow) would be to REMOVE material (from the stack), not add it.
    Except it will also increase the likelihood of the damper topping out, and given how little droop travel the Ohlins already have the spring will become unseated under decompression, cause noise, etc.

    Originally posted by Yeetus View Post

    I dont only care about stance. The setup I have now doesnt rub at all even with full compression.


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    Tuning until it rubs is not how you set up a suspension... are you purposely trying to fuck it up?

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  • mrgizmo04
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    I guess I forgot to mention that if you keep your current spring that doesn't allow you to drop is as low as you want, you can add that spacer and it will get you to the lower height that you are looking for.

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  • Yeetus
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    Thanks for the replies guys. Might mess around with spacers in the front before I go any lower.

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  • mrgizmo04
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    Originally posted by S14 View Post

    I set my Ohlins to the manuals settings and swapped the top mounts from side to side and my car measured 13" in the rear and just under 13" up front!

    OP, if you really want to go lower, I'd suggest the little spacers 3DMotorsport makes, a set of camber plates and standard barrel springs. The shorter stack height of the camber plates will lower the front significantly.
    Originally posted by S14 View Post

    OP, if you really want to go lower, I'd suggest the little spacers 3DMotorsport makes, a set of camber plates and standard barrel springs. The shorter stack height of the camber plates will lower the front significantly.
    How does adding the spacer allow him to go lower? Did you read posts #9 and onward?

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  • sc_tr0jan_m3
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    Originally posted by Tones View Post
    Your going for a stance look. Anything Below 13.5 front and 13 rear messes up the suspension geometry. You will also have no shock travel basically throwing away all the money you spent on one of the most expensive street coilovers out there. They're going to ride like ass and handle like it also


    That's why I said you are looking for stance over performance.

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    This is the general rule of thumb.

    At some point going low will have more of a negative effect for the sake of “looks”.


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  • S14
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    Originally posted by Tones View Post
    Your going for a stance look. Anything Below 13.5 front and 13 rear messes up the suspension geometry. You will also have no shock travel basically throwing away all the money you spent on one of the most expensive street coilovers out there. They're going to ride like ass and handle like it also


    That's why I said you are looking for stance over performance.

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    I set my Ohlins to the manuals settings and swapped the top mounts from side to side and my car measured 13" in the rear and just under 13" up front!

    OP, if you really want to go lower, I'd suggest the little spacers 3DMotorsport makes, a set of camber plates and standard barrel springs. The shorter stack height of the camber plates will lower the front significantly.

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  • Tones
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    Originally posted by Yeetus View Post

    I dont only care about stance. The setup I have now doesnt rub at all even with full compression.


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    Your going for a stance look. Anything Below 13.5 front and 13 rear messes up the suspension geometry. You will also have no shock travel basically throwing away all the money you spent on one of the most expensive street coilovers out there. They're going to ride like ass and handle like it also


    That's why I said you are looking for stance over performance.

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  • BBB
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    Originally posted by mrgizmo04 View Post
    I don't think those spacers help with travel, that is limited by the short front Ohlins piston and further limits stack height by using an after market top or camber plate which attaches super high (vs a stock mount). The spacer allows you to regain ride height without preloading the life out of a softer spring since ride height and preload are a single adjustment.

    So putting in a spacer which gains ride height negates what he is trying to do which is get to lower ride height?

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    I stand corrected, appreciate the clarification!

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  • mrgizmo04
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    Originally posted by Yeetus View Post

    Do i have to find springs with the odd like honeycomb shape or can they just be normal circular ones?


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    Watch the videos I linked above. There is no explanation of honeycomb there, but if you are going to be running super short springs that are relatively soft you will have virtually no bump travel in the shock and will bottom out on pretty much every pothole you hit.

    That said, if I were going with short soft springs I might look at beehive so I don't get coilbind on every bump.

    If you don't go with beehive, but something standard, and assuming you are on stock top mounts, you will need to make sure you get new (aftermarket) mounts that match the inner diameter of the new spring, as well as the bottom collars (although i am not sure what size bottom collars Ohlins come with).

    Hopefully you won't be driving hard street or canyons, because the proposed setup at low ride height with Ohlins will be super super suboptimal and sometimes scary to control, not even getting into roll center, control arm angles and suspension working against itself.

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    Last edited by mrgizmo04; 07-31-2020, 03:57 PM.

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  • Yeetus
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    Originally posted by mrgizmo04 View Post
    Ohlins yellow fronts are 8". They are about 4" diameter and are meant to sit with stock top mounts.

    Most coilovers and track guys swap out for narrower (60-65mm, ~2.5") Swift or Hyperco springs to stuff wider tires and minimize rubbing on strut body/perches. This also requires a change in diameter of the mounts/perches to accept a smaller diameter spring.

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    Do i have to find springs with the odd like honeycomb shape or can they just be normal circular ones?


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  • Yeetus
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    Originally posted by Tones View Post
    Why did you get ohlins of you only care about stance? The ohlins already go pretty low. You should off gone bc

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    I dont only care about stance. The setup I have now doesnt rub at all even with full compression.


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  • Yeetus
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    Originally posted by Onefastsicilian View Post
    i have some 6inch springs i tried on my ohlins. They were too low for my taste but I could sell them for cheap if you want them.
    Hmm I might be interested, ill let you know.


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  • Yeetus
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    Originally posted by S14 View Post
    I just put Ohlins on my car and it's sitting pretty damn low. What is your reason for wanting to go lower?

    I really like how the rear came out so Id like to match it with the front.


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  • Onefastsicilian
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    i have a set of spacers for the ohlins if anyone needs them.

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  • mrgizmo04
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    Yeah I put this spacer on my car not too long ago.

    Some of my friends have found these 2 explanations interesting/useful about springs, shocks and bump vs droop.





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    Last edited by mrgizmo04; 08-01-2020, 07:25 AM.

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