Oh, drop the defensive stance. 2 seconds is quite a difference.
Obviously cars evolve but this is an entry level M car showing a pretty clean pair of heels to the ultimate E46 M3 on special rubber.
The E92 manages the exact same time as the 1M but with a slightly higher peak speed.
Wasnt trying to be deffensive, quite the opposite as it shows how good the CSL is.... To be honest I stopped my subcription to evo a few years ago because I was bored of evo as It seemed to loose its original direction and become a bit to serious and most importantly were always slating the CSL :whistle: (though they did see the light in the end! )
My point was aimed only that for me development has slowed down a lot in the recent years, just take into consideration that top gear episode when they put modern road cars against rally cars..... ( i know TG is slightly on the light side) if you do that with modern cars in comparison to race/rally cars say 10 to 15 years old, the road cars may be slower.
Look, seriously now.
Everytime there is a new M model, the comparison threads start against the best M model up to now (aka M3 CSL).
Everybody is excited with the new model and it's so much better, bla-bla-bla.
The press is used for ///Marketing in case you didn't notice.
When both cars are on the track the inevitable happens.
The new model is no faster on track than the CSL.
These are the facts my friend, everything else is just speculation.
Let's wait untill some guys track the 1M and then we can compare.
Last but not least, if I wanted to get an 1M or M3 GTS, I would get one or both.
But personally I love the CSL and this is what I want to drive.
Now, if BMW Motorsport for 8 years cannot produce a car that is faster than the CSL on track is another thing.
how can an M car that's faster than CSL on track be boring?? not loud enough for you or what???
take a chill pill mate
Haha, I wind you up in no-time :thumbs:
Look, seriously now.
Everytime there is a new M model, the comparison threads start against the best M model up to now (aka M3 CSL).
Everybody is excited with the new model and it's so much better, bla-bla-bla.
The press is used for ///Marketing in case you didn't notice.
When both cars are on the track the inevitable happens.
The new model is no faster on track than the CSL.
These are the facts my friend, everything else is just speculation.
Let's wait untill some guys track the 1M and then we can compare.
Last but not least, if I wanted to get an 1M or M3 GTS, I would get one or both.
But personally I love the CSL and this is what I want to drive.
Now, if BMW Motorsport for 8 years cannot produce a car that is faster than the CSL on track is another thing.
Entry level M car gets 340hp and er, invisible air curtains
Hopefully of most interest to potential recruits to the M brand will be the 340hp straight six with twin turbochargers that gives the 1M a power-to-weight ratio of 227hp/tonne.
The engine has been lifted, apparently pretty much unmodified, straight out of the Z4 - which if true would make the giant 'Powered by BMW M' label under the bonnet seem a little (cough!) fraudulent.
Not my cup of tea at all, regardless how fast it is.
I reckon it's a car that's quick with a great driver but an average Joe will be faster in a Csl I reckon.
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