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[alexk]

Fair enough, Gents - you win.

What i meant is that if they were to put standard M3 on Cups and test the lightest, stock M3 - there would be 0.5 seconds difference, no more IMHO.

That's a short track though - on longer, it'd be a different story not to mention that a heavier M3 would overheat tyres and brakes sooner.

I don't know if you have driven a CSL for more than 1 hour.
If you have, you would understand that it's day and night compared to the standard M3.
Even with standard tyres, the M3 CSL is much faster everywhere. On the straight, on the curves, on the track.
These are derived by facts and laptimes, not by assumptions.

To be honest with you, this story with the CUPs is old and dull.
It's usually the one M3 E46 owners come up with, to argue the case that a CSL is no better than their car.
Oh well, you can't convince everybody right ? But I would expect that you understand this as you are very involved in cars

[Rutkowski]

Maybe you are not reading other threads.
My CSL for example with full tank, SS backbox (race lightweight), AP racing and aircon/radiocd/xenon/rainsensor is 1420kg.

i am not trying to convince people of anything but merely asking questions and trying to learn, that's all. I spent 1000s buying CSL parts so it'd be stupid of me, saying CSLs are rubbish - wouldn't it?

[Rutkowski]

I don't know if you have driven a CSL for more than 1 hour.
If you have, you would understand that it's day and night compared to the standard M3.
Even with standard tyres, the M3 CSL is much faster everywhere. On the straight, on the curves, on the track.
These are derived by facts and laptimes, not by assumptions.

To be honest with you, this story with the CUPs is old and dull.
It's usually the one M3 E46 owners come up with, to argue the case that a CSL is no better than their car.
Oh well, you can't convince everybody right ? But I would expect that you understand this as you are very involved in cars

at what point did i ever say, anywhere that a standard M3 is just as good or better, Alex??

[shane@mbtech]

My dads bigger than your dad:thumbs:

[Rutkowski]

My dads bigger than your dad:thumbs:

my dad used to be an olympic weight lifter.

[Rutkowski]

and i went into strongman competitions.

[shane@mbtech]

my dad used to be an olympic weight lifter.

My dad still is:birdman:

[Rutkowski]

My dad still is:birdman:

fair enough :hahaha:

[glendog74]

I like Armadillos :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

I like Armadillos :smokin:

I think Meerkats are infinitely better :whistle:

[shane@mbtech]

I like Armadillos :smokin:

Smooth on the outside, crunchy on the inside, Armadillos.

[glendog74]

I think Meerkats are infinitely better :whistle:

I think you'll find that Lemurs are the ultimate cool mammal:

[M5 Powered]

Update on the M1's performance at Brands Hatch by Piston Heads. Basically it says keep it for those trips to Sainsbury's. :hahaha:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=23696

[karbonkid]

Real? :whistle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEvpnKRLDO4[/url]

[E46CSL]

Real? :whistle:

M Car or is the ad real ?