F80 m3

[alexk]

Here what I was told when asking for a CSL (showing genuine interest that I want to buy one if they make it).

>
To talk about a „GTS“ Version is very early but BMW M
will always think about high performance cars like the CSL,GTS.
>

[s1csl]

M4 CSL due 2016 that's what they are saying on the BMWblogg

[shimmy]

M4 CSL due 2016 that's what they are saying on the BMWblogg

We're you not listening in Garching :blalalala:

[AlexGTT]

I dont think there will be a csl.

I think there will be Alex. Going by the chat the M guys gave us, they said quite clearly two things:

1. Any CSL model will only be done when they can make a truly bespoke car with lots of special details befitting the CSL badge. The GTS wasn't that and as such was never seen fit to wear the badge.

2. If you guys are wanting a new CSL keep watching because there might be something exciting for you in the next year or so.

Hi,

Given the New Regs due for Europe,
I will be very surprised if a ''Real''
CSL ever see's the light of day again.

In todays' money the E46 CSL would be circa
90k + and the market has changed given
where the economy was in 2003/4 and todays.

And at 100k plus the competition nowdays is
a lot more focused than it was in 2004 for
the 58k price tag.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

I can't see why not Gorilla. OK, the induction noise can't be the same but it would be a platform for lots of lightweight components.

[alexk]

I think there will be Alex. Going by the chat the M guys gave us, they said quite clearly two things:

1. Any CSL model will only be done when they can make a truly bespoke car with lots of special details befitting the CSL badge. The GTS wasn't that and as such was never seen fit to wear the badge.

2. If you guys are wanting a new CSL keep watching because there might be something exciting for you in the next year or so.



I can't see why not Gorilla. OK, the induction noise can't be the same but it would be a platform for lots of lightweight components.

The reply I quoted is from my conversation with BMW M. January or February I will go to Munich to see the M3/M4. They are denying that a CSL or GTS will be made.
I hope they will make one of course because I want to buy it, but I somehow doubt it.

[s1csl]

We're you not listening in Garching :blalalala:

NO, was outside getting chatted up by the Irish lads and trying to get a look in the M garages

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

Quote- '' I can't see why not Gorilla........''

Just look at the New European Emission
requirements which both BMW and Merc
have been instrumental in bringing
about.

Its why all these Performance ''Turbo motors'' are now
being pushed to the forefront, Emissions.

Then you have the saftey requirements which
stripped out lightweight Racers struggle to
make for Impact and Crush testing, and
last but not least, the costs, limited runs are
very costly to produce and manufacture
for Mainstream manufactueres, have limited target audience
and useally end up as PR exercise, not much else.

Look at the financial mess Porsche got itself into
and which almost sunk it without Trace and which
was in most as a direct result of building limited run bespoke
Cars for customers preference, they almost vanished,
even given the prices they charge.

I wager you'll see ''Limited edition'' badged GTS or
something, but nothing along the lines of a
CSL v std E46 M3.

I would like to be wrong but the Bean Counters at
Munich call the shots now, not the MS Division.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[Rick H]

. . . plus E46 CSLs bombed on release . . .

[glendog74]

Nice arse...

[AlexGTT]

Nice arse...

Mmmmm, I like an arse with a bit of shape to it. :wink:

[glendog74]

Mmmmm, I like an arse with a bit of shape to it. :wink:

:thumbs: :thumbs:

[glendog74]

:smokin:

[glendog74]

:drool:

[DazBlackCSL]

:smokin:

It will be in the stable .. That pic just confirms it !

[glendog74]

It will be in the stable .. That pic just confirms it !

Deffo! I love the wheel arches - looks like a more grown up 1M :thumbs: