Track Slag part II

[DuncanR]

Watch out Lawsy ! ... in case it escaped you... Whilst you have been working away on your track slag, I have been making an assault on your Power Driver Champion crown !!:hahaha:

Hope its going well mate.

[shane@mbtech]

Good stuff - What are you doing with the cage? What points are you taking it to?

16 point weld in cage, Im finalising design on saturday, cant wait now, :smt055

[phat///M3]

Some updates, Interior all stripped out, one recaro in, going for roof and full weld in cage on saturday. Alcons on, kw's on, exhaust on.

Looking good.

You should be able to remove the rubbery lining where the back seat used to be, as I think its not there in the CSL.

Also remove the armrest and center console (well its the arm rest that weighs the most).

Are you keeping the door airbags? Also, Im sure you know but you can put remove the doorhandle from the doorpanel and put it back on the door.

[shane@mbtech]

Looking good.

You should be able to remove the rubbery lining where the back seat used to be, as I think its not there in the CSL.

Also remove the armrest and center console (well its the arm rest that weighs the most).

Are you keeping the door airbags? Also, Im sure you know but you can put remove the doorhandle from the doorpanel and put it back on the door.

Rubber mat is out, rear carpet is now out, armrest will be coming out, airbags are off, im going carbon door skins/panels, so ill finalise handles when they are on:thumbs:

[phat///M3]

Rubber mat is out, rear carpet is now out, armrest will be coming out, airbags are off, im going carbon door skins/panels, so ill finalise handles when they are on:thumbs:

OOoh nice, when can we expect piccies?

[_Nathan_]

Where are you getting the carbon doors from and how much + what is the weight? PM me if you prefer.

[Hazy]

Rubber mat is out, rear carpet is now out, armrest will be coming out, airbags are off, im going carbon door skins/panels, so ill finalise handles when they are on:thumbs:

I'm also needing to know where ya getting the carbon from mate please!!

[shane@mbtech]

OOoh nice, when can we expect piccies?

Where are you getting the carbon doors from and how much + what is the weight? PM me if you prefer.

I'm also needing to know where ya getting the carbon from mate please!!

Not full carbon doors, just the interior panels for now, although I might see about cutting crash bars out the doors etc. Nice winter project for me to tackle. It will be finished end of january completely:thumbs:

[Thorney]

Workshop is getting a bit full at the moment

Steve's shell is stripped awaiting cage for Rodger.

Shanes will be here on Sat for the full treatment.

As for the question of which to convert, I dont think there is a right answer. If its going to be a track slag only then the CSL makes slightly more sense in terms of the amount of work as less is needed, as Natah says, loom is smaller, CF roof already there, slightly higher power. The downside is the extra cost to repair if it goes wrong as some of the CSL parts are more than M3. If its going to (eventually) be a race car then the M3 makes more sense, most of what makes the CSL unique is changed anyway (even the roof) for a race car so the only real benefits are higher stock power which we replicate via CSL airboxes on M3's. DSC we turn off, ABS is the same and works differently with CSL CUp brakes (should you go that route), the CSL rack is worth having but only really makes an effect at Druids at BH and hairpin at Croft, everywhere else stock M3 rack is fine and cheap to replace.

Devil is in the details of course, the difference between a strack slag (love that term) and a full spec race car can (and usually is) massive.

Shane, strip out the sound deadening mate, we'll have to do it if you dont

[Thorney]

Nathan, we've done carbon doors for the E46 now, £750 each. Weight depends on window options as ours are framless.

[Dan_csl]

Nathan, we've done carbon doors for the E46 now, £750 each. Weight depends on window options as ours are framless.

Knowing what other people have paid for carbon doors on other cars thats a very good price!

What is the quality like, are they good enough to leave unpainted if someone wanted to do so? (I wouldn't but just saying are they that good?)

Also what are the rough weight savings on a CSL? I know other carbon doors (Mk2 Focus) weigh around 6kg's for a bare door :smokin:

[Thorney]

Still making a few changes to spec to allow wider variety of window options but 6-7kg is about right. Finsih depends on what you want, if its going to be painted then we'll leave it unfinished but most will come out ready to plonk on the car and rolled out.:thumbs:

[_Nathan_]

£700 at GSM though

How do your windows cope with bowing out? normal job with tensioning them?

Bare door is normally about 4kg Dan - massive savings over oem doors, I've paid a deposit on some GRP ones as they are only 4.5kg each and for the money saved I can live with an extra kg on the car, however the guy is a fucking nightmare and 7 weeks on still waiting for a shipping date, at least this week he sent me pictures of them which is a start...

If he doesn't pull his finger out soon I'll be back in the market.

John - Sure I've read that the ABS programming is different on the CSL to allow for stickier tyres? might be worth checking and if so then copy the coding from CSL to M3 if that is possible?

[azrael]

Most importantly are you keeping the centre arm rest in :-D