My 1st CSL Experience!

[adem.csl]

There are no actual gains when you press Sport though, just a sharper throttle and more noise.

Shimmy, this is you, isn't it ?

Ya reckon?why do you get more noise?

[still no worries]

snow

this sounds odd but i had two laps of the nurburgring with about an inch of snow on it before they closed it, nearly 300 corners sideway's trying to stay with my mate in an impreza, very very slow lap time but so much fun !
to be fair any rear wheel drive car would have done, in fact a really cheap one would have ment a lot faster lap time !

[J13NY S]

Ya reckon?why do you get more noise?

OMG.. I would stop talkin if I was you son!

[J13NY S]

this sounds odd but i had two laps of the nurburgring with about an inch of snow on it before they closed it, nearly 300 corners sideway's trying to stay with my mate in an impreza, very very slow lap time but so much fun !
to be fair any rear wheel drive car would have done, in fact a really cheap one would have ment a lot faster lap time !

Nothing odd about that, sounds like a proper CSL experience!!

[shimmy]

I've removed my sport button, does this mean that I'm down on power now

Well I guess is you hadn't installed motec and had left the flap in, yes it would.

[adem.csl]

not your son mate.why should i stop talking?

OMG.. I would stop talkin if I was you son!

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[shimmy]

There are no actual gains when you press Sport though, just a sharper throttle and more noise.

Shimmy, this is you, isn't it ?

That is wrong, honestly on CSL there are gains/losses.

[J13NY S]

not your son mate.why should i stop talking?

No point arguing with people..

[adem.csl]

No point arguing with people..

i was just interested in his opinion as to why he blieves there are no gains.if ya gonna post a response to something you should be able to discuss your reasons.

[shimmy]

i was just interested in his opinion as to why he blieves there are no gains.if ya gonna post a response to something you should be able to discuss your reasons.

As far as I am aware on CSL there are gains by having the sport on The airbox being closed for longer means for that period of revs the engine is lacking air and some power (prob just 0-5/10 bhp.

I belief this because I haves even my car dynoed at Simpons 30bhp down on power, then finding the flap BROKEN, removing it and the 30bhp retuning.

As far as I know this means that the flap being shut permently restricts air flow for a much bigger range of revs thus meaning CSl will be down. 0-30bhp, instead of 0-5/10 if it was just Sport Off.

[adem.csl]

i believe you to be right.hear me out i could be wrong but this is what i think.why produce a button that only makes the car responsive to pedal travel and make noise?the noise is the flap opening up correct?ok when that flap opens it allows greater airflow into the manifold?yes? now the car wont run properly with too much air so we add fuel?ok we got increased air so we increse fuel.ratio is 14.1 i think.now we got more fuel and air we run greater exhaust temps.that could burn a valve so to counter that we addd timing am i right?now with more air fuel and timing comes more power?what do ya think?

[adem.csl]

by the way all other sensors are adding their evaluations such as engine temp vs throttle position vs air temp/pressure vs all the oxygen sensors that monitor fuel.all adding to the adjustments so it cant be just a noise and quick pedal.

[thrashermax]

More power at the same pedal position but the top BHP remains the same. This is why when cruising the car increases revs when the button is pressed despite keeping the pedal in the same position.

Unfortunately, Adem, you come across as a wide boy - don't be offended by comments to you, just enjoy your CSL! And stop racing Fords!

[adem.csl]

what im saying is same as shimmy ok.ya top bhp of 360 will stay the same cos the flap is open top end.but wid flap closed you loose a litte power due to restrictions.it was my take anyway not gospel.YET!!!!!! whats a wide boy?

[thrashermax]

whats a wide boy?

Wheeler Dealer type like Del Boy...