The make or break question....

[Johnno]

Mike how much money he 'invested' in his car ?
Also... this sounds faster than a 997 GT2 RS :whistle:

Mega money, in the flesh it's stunning. I had a good look around it when I was at rent for ring last.

[alexk]

Mega money, in the flesh it's stunning. I had a good look around it when I was at rent for ring last.

From youtube ->

A BTG lap during GranTurismo trackday 30.4.2013
Car: BMW M3 E92 Schirmer V8 GT
Engine: Standard with Akrapovic exhaust (431 HP on Dyno)
Tires: New Dunlop Direzza 03G (265/35x18 - 285/30x18)
Suspension: Nitron with Schirmer kinematics and setup
Car weight: abt.1600kg with driver
The car has unbelievable handling and balance
"It is all about the handling - not horsepower"

So 431HP and 1600kg is faster than 1320kg and 620HP which happens to be Porsche's best car...
Makes you wonder :whistle:

[Johnno]

From youtube ->

A BTG lap during GranTurismo trackday 30.4.2013
Car: BMW M3 E92 Schirmer V8 GT
Engine: Standard with Akrapovic exhaust (431 HP on Dyno)
Tires: New Dunlop Direzza 03G (265/35x18 - 285/30x18)
Suspension: Nitron with Schirmer kinematics and setup
Car weight: abt.1600kg with driver
The car has unbelievable handling and balance
"It is all about the handling - not horsepower"

So 431HP and 1600kg is faster than 1320kg and 620HP which happens to be Porsche's best car...
Makes you wonder :whistle:

The way the thing corners is insane. On the other hand. The rs 4.0 looks in the similar bracket.

They were leaving gt2 / 3's all week.

Didn't handle like a 1600kg car.

[m3ni]

Hey guys,

Joined here a few months ago, pondered about at different cars, test drove a cayman S, Few m3's etc then decided to 100% put my evo up for sale.

CSL's have always made my head turn, being a regular at the ring I've seen my fair share.

The make or break question for me is, why a csl and why not a 5 year newer V8 M3.

There's obviously pro's and con's for both, the biggest pro for the v8 is its newer, dct box is faster? Pros for csl, rare, will hold value better?

I'm guessing the biggest one is depreciating, v8's can be had for around 20k now.

My evo is going tommorow hopefully, taken a deposit so all well ill be in the market for a new car. Anyone around South Wales fancy showing me what a csl can do?

(Thinking of trying to view this this weekend if I can) - http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=460316

I am based over the water in Somerset if you fancy looking over one and guess what it's also for sale :wink:

[Trawler]

[QUOTE=LeinsCSL;n434564]You need to drive one and all will be clear, simple as that really. Decision will then be made for you!

+1

[Mike RT4]

From youtube ->

A BTG lap during GranTurismo trackday 30.4.2013
Car: BMW M3 E92 Schirmer V8 GT
Engine: Standard with Akrapovic exhaust (431 HP on Dyno)
Tires: New Dunlop Direzza 03G (265/35x18 - 285/30x18)
Suspension: Nitron with Schirmer kinematics and setup
Car weight: abt.1600kg with driver
The car has unbelievable handling and balance
"It is all about the handling - not horsepower"

So 431HP and 1600kg is faster than 1320kg and 620HP which happens to be Porsche's best car...
Makes you wonder :whistle:

I think that they're being pessimistic about the weight, as the owner of the white car says it was 1450kg without driver. However, I have seen pictures of the German owner, and he is a big lad, so I'd guess at 1570, hence rounding up.

Don't forget EVERY car has to have a driver in it .

Look at the cars it is faster than at last year's Tuner Grand Prix:

http://www.carunch.com/2012-auto-tuner-grand-prix-event-at-hockenheimring-top-tuned-cars-results/

[_Nathan_]

From youtube ->

A BTG lap during GranTurismo trackday 30.4.2013
Car: BMW M3 E92 Schirmer V8 GT
Engine: Standard with Akrapovic exhaust (431 HP on Dyno)
Tires: New Dunlop Direzza 03G (265/35x18 - 285/30x18)
Suspension: Nitron with Schirmer kinematics and setup
Car weight: abt.1600kg with driver
The car has unbelievable handling and balance
"It is all about the handling - not horsepower"

So 431HP and 1600kg is faster than 1320kg and 620HP which happens to be Porsche's best car...
Makes you wonder :whistle:

1320 with driver?

[alexk]

1320 with driver?

No I believe the 997 GT2 RS is 1320kg without the driver.
So let's say 1400kg with the driver.

[Mike RT4]

No I believe the 997 GT2 RS is 1320kg without the driver.
So let's say 1400kg with the driver.

Look how much faster the HEAVIER 991 GT3 (DCT) is than the more powerful 997 GT3 RS 4.0 (manual) - the Schirmer cars are DCT . It's not JUST about power to weight, just think how many seconds a lap a DCT car is able to shave off a manual shifter (part of the reason the CSL punches above it's power to weight Can be attributed to the shift speed of the SMG car compared to a manual ).

[_Nathan_]

Surprised it is that light, non RS is 1440 without driver I think?

Road cars are all shit on track anyway in the big scheme of things so just get the one that makes you smile the most! :beer:

[shane@mbtech]

Surprised it is that light, non RS is 1440 without driver I think?

Road cars are all shit on track anyway in the big scheme of things so just get the one that makes you smile the most! :beer:

:thumbs:

Very true.

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

To do 7.05 BTG [19.1km] your average
speed is over 100 mph per hour
ie ] over a 161 Kmh

To put that into perspective it means that
that at ''Spa'' faster Circuit, you would be able to do
a Lap time of 2.36 !!!!!!!

Not sure who is smoking what.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[gav]

The black dauxx e92 is very nice. Looks the purpose as well. Seen it at schirmers a few times when having a few things sorted.
Very sorted on the ring.

Would very much like one (schirmer one, not a standard one)

[shane@mbtech]

Hi,

To do 7.05 BTG [19.1km] your average
speed is over 100 mph per hour
ie ] over a 161 Kmh

To put that into perspective it means that
that at ''Spa'' faster Circuit, you would be able to do
a Lap time of 2.36 !!!!!!!

Not sure who is smoking what.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

You cannot compare ring average speeds to spa average speeds. Bit naive to even compare really.

f1 average speed ranges from 163.5kph to 262.2kph on the slowest to fastest circuit.

[cslsuperfan]

e92 V CSL

E92 M3 DCT with EDC an absolute must...gearbox is sublime.....however that's about it

Wont repeat the wise words of other well informed peeps but having owned both the E92 M3 and the mighty csl i'm afraid the V8 just doesn't cut it against BMW's finest.

The CSL is an event every time you go out.....the final straw was my wife saying she liked driving the V8 in auto!!
she wont go within 100 yards of the CSL....says it's scary!

What more can I say