The make or break question....

[Bounce]

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He is looking fooking old as well nowadays:119:




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[northernjim]

Csl and evo are going. I might be selling Gtr too, project e92 is definitely on the horizon, so I can give real world feedback and lap times.

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Rumour has it you just buy and sell cars now and don't bother driving them


Old age gets to us all matey



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He is looking fooking old as well nowadays:119:




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[shimmy]

Csl and evo are going. I might be selling Gtr too, project e92 is definitely on the horizon, so I can give real world feedback and lap times.

Rumour has it you just buy and sell cars now and don't bother driving them


Old age gets to us all matey



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[shane@mbtech]

Csl and evo are going. I might be selling Gtr too, project e92 is definitely on the horizon, so I can give real world feedback and lap times.

[shimmy]

feck that - Imagine how quick Shim is at the ring then! :thumbs::hahaha:

7.05. Just call me Eastenders Barry

[Mike R]

It was on slicks when he did that time.....





A 7:22 full lap would have a btg lap of around 7min... Or do you mean that Mark from eastenders has done 7:05 on a tourist day?

Not Mark, but according to him (if he is the owner of the white car), the owner of the black car has done a full lap of 7:22 and a BTG time of 7:05.

Comparing the wrong thing Alex- 1600 kg on the road, versus 1320 kg plus driver,fuel (and fluids probably)

plus the weight balance of the M3 has got to make it so much easier to drive than the gt2 don't you think?? The gt2rs does the ring in 7:18 apparently, what layout - 20.8km or 20.6km I don't know?

All the Sport Auto and industry test times are for 20.6km.

[O'Neill]

feck that - Imagine how quick Shim is at the ring then! :thumbs::hahaha:

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[northernjim]

feck that - Imagine how quick Shim is at the ring then! :thumbs::hahaha:

[glendog74]

I'm 8:06btg and 3:04Spa!! would be nice to have done it on a dry day tho:birdman:

You're not trying hard enough Jim Bob :finga:

[O'Neill]

I'm 8:06btg and 3:04Spa!! would be nice to have done it on a dry day tho:birdman:

You should be under 3mins in the dry with the btg Spa formula:blalalala:

[northernjim]

Theoretically no as his average speed is slower on a supposedly faster track:smokin::gayfight::gayfight:

It seems though Spa and BTG average speeds for mid powered road cars are similar.

In the Honda I'm roughly the same (8:30 BTG 3:04 Spa) a couple of guys in e36 M3s (Just over 8 mins BTG 2:58-3 mins Spa) and e46 M3s (under 8 BTG 2:56 Spa)

iamanerd:-D

I'm 8:06btg and 3:04Spa!! would be nice to have done it on a dry day tho:birdman:

[O'Neill]

IS Peter better than me then :bigcry:

Theoretically no as his average speed is slower on a supposedly faster track:smokin:

It seems though Spa and BTG average speeds for mid powered road cars are similar.

In the Honda I'm roughly the same (8:30 BTG 3:04 Spa) a couple of guys in e36 M3s (Just over 8 mins BTG 2:58-3 mins Spa) and e46 M3s (under 8 BTG 2:56 Spa)

iamanerd:-D

[northernjim]

Where is the proof of a Schirmer car on road legal tyres doing a 7.22?

It was on slicks when he did that time.....

- the 7.22 full lap is what I was told by the owner of the above white car, and that the black car has now also got down to a 7:05 BTG....

A 7:22 full lap would have a btg lap of around 7min... Or do you mean that BARRY from eastenders has done 7:05 on a tourist day?

Car weight: abt.1600kg with driver
The car has unbelievable handling and balance
"It is all about the handling - not horsepower"

So 431HP and 1600kg is faster than 1320kg and 620HP which happens to be Porsche's best car...
Makes you wonder :whistle:

Comparing the wrong thing Alex- 1600 kg on the road, versus 1320 kg plus driver,fuel (and fluids probably)

plus the weight balance of the M3 has got to make it so much easier to drive than the gt2 don't you think?? The gt2rs does the ring in 7:18 apparently, what layout - 20.8km or 20.6km I don't know?



There are too many unknowns for us to conclusively say anything apart from the fact that........ \/ \/

IS Peter better than me then :bigcry:

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[shimmy]

Unfortunately you're comparing two different cars (I believe Shimmy's car is on 18s for track use) along with two different driver skill levels.

You can only get a true indication with the same car and driver with equal circuit knowledge of each track.

Even if they're nigh on identical, it doesn't support the Primate's argument that Spa is the faster circuit.

IS Peter better than me then :bigcry:

[DuncanR]

Too many variables as you and Nathan have stated.

I'm in agreement that ring average speed is higher.

My average speed between the Ring and Spa ..is even higher !:hahaha:

As a footnote, based on past info and facts, I wouldn't recommend anyone on here to try and do better than 7:40 in a non seriously tricked out CSL, even with AP's, and Intrax, cage etc. at our level, that IS a very quick lap for a TF day.