Elms Boot Floor Repair

[0-60motorsports]

If anything it will most probably add value in the eyes of most future CSL buyers as they are more wary of ones which haven't been done IMHO.

Yes, True as anyone looking to buy an E46 M3/CSL (if they have done a bit of reading) will ask if the rear subframe has been replaced or reinforced.

[GregorFuk]

Hmm, post deleted. Someone covering their tracks? A bit late for that.

[mistergav]

Yes, True as anyone looking to buy an E46 M3/CSL (if they have done a bit of reading) will ask if the rear subframe has been replaced or reinforced.

Fair enough

[mistergav]

Hmm, post deleted. Someone covering their tracks? A bit late for that.

All the pictures are public in Photobucket if you are interested. Here.

The work is being carried out by BMW and they will carry a record of that.

Its my car and my OCD required it be put right, other people would probably just have sold it as soon as it was spotted. I'm not trying to cover my tracks, I just not interested in hearing people speak negatively about my CSL.

Regarding covering tracks, it's worth mentioning that this was previously owned by a CSLR member and was sold directly after the boot floor repair. Elms told me they informed the previous owner about this damage as they spotted it when working on the floor.

:whistle:

[GregorFuk]

All the pictures are public in Photobucket if you are interested. Here.

The work is being carried out by BMW and they will carry a record of that.

Its my car and my OCD required it be put right, other people would probably just have sold it as soon as it was spotted. I'm not trying to cover my tracks, I just not interested in hearing people speak negatively about my CSL.

Regarding covering tracks, it's worth mentioning that this was previously owned by a CSLR member and was sold directly after the boot floor repair. Elms told me they informed the previous owner about this damage as they spotted it when working on the floor.

:whistle:

I'm just ribbing you a little. You stated that you didn't really care about about value etc then promptly deleted the pictures showing the car had taken a knock in a past life.

There is no doubt that the fact that your car has had a rear quarter will effect it's values. But as long as it has been done properly, should it matter? Probably not, it certainly won't effect how it drives, but that's how the market works. It's the same market that will dictate that my car with it's low millage replacement engine is worth less now than if it had the original block. But honestly what would you rather have, a 30K engine or an 85K engine?

All of the above is laughable when you see just how much 'original' car is left when some classics go for 'restoration'. You seem to be able to replace pretty much everything as long as the chassis plate remains in place. How many air cooled Porsches have had new quarters and sills I wonder?

I've said it before. These cars are now 12 years old at best and many have been used on track. Unless they have been kept in a bubble expect the unexpected. But an original paint & paneled car will always be worth more.

[mistergav]

I'm just ribbing you a little. You stated that you didn't really care about about value etc then promptly deleted the pictures showing the car had taken a knock in a past life.

There is no doubt that the fact that your car has had a rear quarter will effect it's values. But as long as it has been done properly, should it matter? Probably not, it certainly won't effect how it drives, but that's how the market works. It's the same market that will dictate that my car with it's low millage replacement engine is worth less now than if it had the original block. But honestly what would you rather have, a 30K engine or an 85K engine?

All of the above is laughable when you see just how much 'original' car is left when some classics go for 'restoration'. You seem to be able to replace pretty much everything as long as the chassis plate remains in place. How many air cooled Porsches have had new quarters and sills I wonder?

I've said it before. These cars are now 12 years old at best and many have been used on track. Unless they have been kept in a bubble expect the unexpected. But an original paint & paneled car will always be worth more.

I know how it would have looked but really I didn't want to start an originality/value debate, but that's immediately where it went. I should have known better.

Nice post and I cant disagree.

Is the value affected, of course it is. That's why the previous owner immediately offloaded it when he found out.

[GregorFuk]

On an interesting slightly connected topic. JZM Porsche will not purchase and re-sell a Porsche if they know it has had a new panel. They will only do sale or return for cars that have had this sort of work. Worth remembering if a a CSLer is looking to move up to a GT3.

[73CSL]

I think its great to see this work,and the rear 1/4 isn't an issue, at least we can see it's been repaired properly.

Coming from the classic porsche side of things you should see the starting point for some of the resto's (a friend of mine's current project... pg9 onwards for bodywork http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/vie...1415&start=120 )

CSL is a car built for the track etc

as some of the 964RS boys used to say , " there are no virgins in the bordello "

[cslsuperfan]

I know how it would have looked but really I didn't want to start an originality/value debate, but that's immediately where it went. I should have known better.

Nice post and I cant disagree.

Is the value affected, of course it is. That's why the previous owner immediately offloaded it when he found out.

IMO the fact that you've documented and photographed the work speaks volumes for the car's integrity. Should you decide to sell the car the new owner will be assured.

[mattCSLnut]

IMO the fact that you've documented and photographed the work speaks volumes for the car's integrity. Should you decide to sell the car the new owner will be assured.

+ 1 :thumbs: