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    #16
    Originally posted by The Gorilla View Post
    Hi,

    I think the CSL is about 355 BHP ish although
    have made a few changes which may
    have altered it by 2-3 BHP.

    Ie AC deleted, etc.

    The CSL engine in the E30 M3, no cats
    twin 60mm Exhausts, only one box,
    running on Motec M880 made
    365 BHP on the Dyno and it was
    pulled back a bit at the top, now 355 ish
    to give a bit more grunt lower down.

    Will 1600 pounds worth of Super Sprint
    S/S give me 10 BHP more, I very much doubt
    it.

    Regards,

    The Gorilla.
    Entitled to your opinion of course. However I'm happy to refund anyone (applies to all of our upgrades) if its doesn't do what we say it does - same applies to any business really.

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      #17
      Hi,

      Derek Musch at Musch Motorsport
      had a S54 almost to full works spec
      here is a pic of a BMW Motorsport
      Header.




      Regards,

      The Gorilla.

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        #18
        Yeah we know Musch, nice guys, we are working together on a few things actually.

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          #19
          Some interesting info from JT and The Gorilla.

          John, would my car with cat-back SS system see any benefit from a SS manifold? I would rather keep the cats standard ideally - would this restrict flow and therefore additional power?

          TVM

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            #20
            Hi,

            Thorney- I am in no way trying to undermine
            anybody's business and I am sure you have
            full confidence in the products you use, sell,
            and fit to the satisfaction of many customers.

            Its just my opinion, and its that as I am not Racing
            where every last tenth counts, then what does
            a 8-10 BHP gain costing 1600.00 on an engine
            that is already falling of its tourqe curve at over
            7000 rpm really do for me on your average
            Track Day.

            I have said it before, and your comment on the
            Cam Shafts puts its all into real world perspective,
            there are no cheap real power gains for
            a S54 engine much past 360/370 BHP.

            Its always good to kick these things around
            and I am sure that there are those that will not
            agree with me, and thats fine.

            Musch works with KK, your work with
            Musch, small world, would'nt want to
            paint it though.

            Regards,

            The Gorilla.

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              #21
              Originally posted by The Gorilla View Post
              Hi,

              Thorney- I am in no way trying to undermine
              anybody's business and I am sure you have
              full confidence in the products you use, sell,
              and fit to the satisfaction of many customers.

              Its just my opinion, and its that as I am not Racing
              where every last tenth counts, then what does
              a 8-10 BHP gain costing 1600.00 on an engine
              that is already falling of its tourqe curve at over
              7000 rpm really do for me on your average
              Track Day.

              I have said it before, and your comment on the
              Cam Shafts puts its all into real world perspective,
              there are no cheap real power gains for
              a S54 engine much past 360/370 BHP.

              Its always good to kick these things around
              and I am sure that there are those that will not
              agree with me, and thats fine.

              Musch works with KK, your work with
              Musch, small world, would'nt want to
              paint it though.

              Regards,

              The Gorilla.
              Oh no mate, I didnt take it that way, indeed the tuning industry is rife with BS whereas racing tends to be more cut and dry (you win or you dont win, simples) so challenging comments I feel is perfectly justified. The downside to forums etc is that the only thing you can measure is numbers and for an NA engine that is only a small part of the story. The difference just by bolting the manifold is a very clear increase in torque in how the car drives, its only 15-18lb which isn't that much in the scheme of things but you feel it all and frankly its lovely. I like tuning NA cars, even small differences in numbers can make big differences in how the car drives thats the fun.

              As for fitting a manifold to a standard cat, hmmm, dont know if I'm honest. I'd imagine you'd get decent gains from the mani but you'd lose them all in the stock cat but really couldnt be sure.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Thorney View Post
                As for fitting a manifold to a standard cat, hmmm, dont know if I'm honest. I'd imagine you'd get decent gains from the mani but you'd lose them all in the stock cat but really couldnt be sure.
                Thanks for your reply John.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by flatout
                  Before i plunge and buy one new :drool:, thought i'd put this up after seeing a similar add.

                  Please PM me with pics and condition details if possible.

                  Rgds
                  Rich
                  Oh well looks like a second hand one is out of the question......

                  Group buy????:thumbs:

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                    #24
                    It must me time of the year - was just about to put up a post on this very subject but thought to do a search first just in case someone's posted similar before:whistle: an there it was, I'd posted this nearly 12 month ago.:hahaha:

                    Anyway, am really considering this now and was wondering if anyone had taken the plunge in the last 12 months or indeed considering such a mod.

                    PS - i hear group buys are :ban: on here for the S/S system :whistle: so guess no chance of this happening :bigcry:

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                      #25
                      not banned just hard work.

                      The only two I know that worked were some carbon bits and some bulk cheese purchase

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                        #26
                        I can sort decent s/s prices:thumbs:

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by lawsy View Post
                          I can sort decent s/s prices:thumbs:
                          :supz::thumbs::thumbs: YHM

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by lawsy View Post
                            I can sort decent s/s prices:thumbs:
                            Talk to me... :whistle:

                            I'm still interested in doing this mod if the price was right - especially as i doubt i will be renewing my BMW warranty this year...

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                              #29
                              I know... How about a group buy?! :thumbs: :bigcry:

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by glendog74 View Post
                                I know... How about a group buy?! :thumbs: :bigcry:
                                :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

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