SUSPENSION CHOICE KW or NITRON...!!! (heeelp )

[AlexGTT]

I'd say AP's save 1 or 2 kg's per corner as well. Very useful as un-sprung weight.

[shimmy]

the lowest i got my car to for Spa was 1334kg without driver and low on fluids (car, not me)

[mattCSLnut]

I'd say AP's save 1 or 2 kg's per corner as well. Very useful as un-sprung weight.

Very true :smt045 I knew I forgo something

[DazBlackCSL]

Lee

Few Questions in response to your post ?

Where did you get hold of the 3 - Way KW kit ? These are NOT off the shelf and are full race kits so need a proper set up, i.e KW wont sell you one unless:
1. You already know what your doing ( race team etc )
2. Or have advised you as to where to take it to get it set up correctly

So I assume you brought this kit directly from a dealer, who should of done it ?

I assume the german KW dude you were referring too is Mitch ?

Who did you speak to if at all re set up of the kit ?

I can highly recommend AMD in Essex who set up my Non standard Clubsport Kit, this kit was hand built in the factory with some 3-way race kit parts and springs, and needed a proper set up which AMD did. ( They race in the BTCC on KW's currently )

I tweaked about with the spring rates and had Raeder Motorsport next to the ring do a bit of fettling and yes it took me a while to get it perfect and how I wanted it, but now it's perfect.

The other place that know and understands KW is ThorneyMS , now they dont use KW anymore but the knowledge in the kits and cars doesn't evaporate just because they dont stock it anymore, they raced on and sold KW 's for years, and highly recommended them at the time, as they did when I wanted a kit, and did my original set up on first kit which was a V3 ( to be honest probably the best kit for me needs ) and it was an awesome set up that TMS did, so there is two that I know off that fully understand KW in the UK already :whistle:

Different car (evo), but I did the "what suspension?" thing to death this year. Looked (hard) at Nitron, KW, Exe-tc, Ohlins etc. In the end I went for KW competition 3-way (pricey!)

Now I'm about to do the suspension on my CSL.

What I can tell you that I've learnt along the way...

1. Unless you are a suspension guru, stick to a single adjuster setup !
2. Ideally, top-adjusters are best to save scrabbling around underneath the car
3. Consider carefully the after-sales service you will get. If you need advice on fitting/setup, is your supplier available on the phone and speaks the same language (the real KW setup guy is German, has good english but its not the same...) Also when it comes to needing them serviced/repaired, how easy/costly is that going to be?
4. If you've an off-the-shelf kinda car, buy an off-the-shelf package
5. Choose a vendor with a proven experience in your car, not just x years in the suspension industry - all cars are different.


For what its worth, for my CSL I'm going with intrax 1k2 from simpson. My next choice would have been KW Clubsports. If KW had a decent (fitting/setup) outfit in the UK I might have gone for them, but their UK arm is just a box-shift job.

HTH !

cheers
Lee.

[_Nathan_]

Aircon is circa 12-15kg, Xenons 4kg I believe.

[nick///M3]

ehm....sorry guys

any more input on the suspensions????

come on...i know you got lighter cars....:thumbs:

i wanna hear some more pleaaaase!!!!!:beer:

[shimmy]

OEM

its not want you want to hear but its the truth:thumbs:

[Curly]

ehm....sorry guys

any more input on the suspensions????

come on...i know you got lighter cars....:thumbs:

i wanna hear some more pleaaaase!!!!!:beer:

Sorry I cant help I have got a Cayman 1435 kilos stock with half a tank of juice :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

Sorry I cant help I have got a Cayman 1435 kilos stock with half a tank of juice :smokin:

Yeah sure, but what about if it had 90% fuel and you in it ? :whistle:

[AlexGTT]

Sorry I cant help I have got a Cayman 1435 kilos stock with half a tank of juice :smokin:

It's also fully loaded with ICE and the latest disco tunes.:smokin:

[nick///M3]

Sorry I cant help I have got a Cayman 1435 kilos stock with half a tank of juice :smokin:

aahhh hate you for your weight...but in a straight line...sorry....!!!!:thumbs:

[nick///M3]

OEM

its not want you want to hear but its the truth:thumbs:

really its not...hahahaha!!!

waiting reply for simpson motorsport also.....!!!
is the coilover in the rear that much problem???

i asked for the second choice - trackday....:whistle:

[alexk]

is the coilover in the rear that much problem???

Nope, unless you have a cage in the car :hahaha:


Guys, your scales are out of order !
I need to take the car to Sportec to weight it, in a proper Swiss scale.

[Rutkowski]

Nick - have you considered Bilstein PSS10 at all? It's a really good compromise between track and a fast B road. :thumbs: PSS10 is Perfect for a fast B road really.

[shimmy]

really its not...hahahaha!!!

waiting reply for simpson motorsport also.....!!!
is the coilover in the rear that much problem???

i asked for the second choice - trackday....:whistle:

Rear coilovers can crack the rear turret metal work. Choices are;

1. Cage linking turrets
2. Rear strutt brace (solid pref)
3. BMW Z3 reinforcement plates
4. Welded thickening plates.

Even though item 4 is a good option you've got to think 'what happens if you need to take the car to BMW for subframe/floor cracks so I woul rule it out. Solution needs to be reversible.

I used 2 & 3 together. A few guys gave had bad turret cracking.