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    #61
    As I said earlier in this thread, many people prefer the Cup1 over cup2 on various type of cars, rwd,awd etc. but some like the Cup2 more too so its a mixed reaction but there is no doubt or mixed comment anyone whom used Trofeo R, everyone says its the quickest and best semi slick you can buy today. Which will be my next set of track tires.

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      #62
      Decided to sell my cup2 today. Never used, going cage and slicks route as didn't fancy being disappointed.

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        #63
        Spoke to Martin today and decided that the next set will be again the original Cup.

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          #64
          Lap of Croft on said tyres.

          https://youtu.be/ps6qksDpPUc

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            #65
            Looked like they were not so grippy. Was that the case ?

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              #66
              Originally posted by knoxville View Post
              Lap of Croft on said tyres.

              https://youtu.be/ps6qksDpPUc
              So what is the outcome ?
              Laptime of cup 2 vs original cup ?

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                #67
                For all you non track warriors I'm finding the cup 2s fine on the road. Very very loud on certain roads. All dry miles to date (approx 1100 miles)

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by alexk View Post
                  So what is the outcome ?
                  Laptime of cup 2 vs original cup ?
                  Gav looked more out of control on the cup 2, than my e92 did on cup + at the same circuit

                  I know Gav can drive too, so definitely cup 2 not up to the task.

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                    #69
                    With very limited experience (& ability!) I'd say they take bit longer to get up to temp, bit more progressive and may be not as quite as grippy. But seemed to last ok and reportedly better in wet but I haven't pushed them in wet as yet. I'd guess they're well ahead of Cup+ though. Be interesting to see same day comparison.

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                      #70
                      A friend has also now tested them and his views are they are good for a very limited window (like the Toyo R888s), in that they go off very quickly. Once they get too hot, grip is much reduced (as per Gav's vid). They don't come back again until allowed to cool off. So although they may be a better road tyre than the original Cups, they are a much worse track tyre.

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                        #71
                        Nice Video Gav and well driven.

                        So if Cup2 are 2 seconds quicker than Cup+ maybe cup1 are 2 seconds quicker than Cup2.

                        Looks like they allow plenty of fun.

                        Actually WTF do I know, gone for slicks.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by 3wheels3 View Post
                          With very limited experience (& ability!) I'd say they take bit longer to get up to temp, bit more progressive and may be not as quite as grippy. But seemed to last ok and reportedly better in wet but I haven't pushed them in wet as yet. I'd guess they're well ahead of Cup+ though. Be interesting to see same day comparison.
                          You talking about the pork wheels?

                          If so it's hard to compare to e46, 888 on e46 were crap, but they worked great with the 3ft wide rear tyre on the 996 gt3 sticky had:beer:

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                            #73
                            Yeah on pork so not to compare too directly and take things into account like chassis/suspension. Reckon that's how most would find them on e46 so would be reasonable if you were ok leaving the last 0.1s on the table in exchange for better wet. Don't know but think they'd last ok. Did Spa/Zolder and it was hot. As I said be real interesting same day comparison.

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                              #74
                              It would be good if knoxville would tell us his laptimes with cup and cup 2.

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by alexk View Post
                                It would be good if knoxville would tell us his laptimes with cup and cup 2.
                                He's not used cups Alex

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