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    Long lasting summer tire

    I'm looking for some of the longest lasting summer tires available. Yes, I know that the long lasting tires will have less grip than the Star Specs and equivalent tires. But I am after life, not grip. I drive almost 500 miles a week (that's 26k per year) and I just need something that lasts longer than 6 months. I live in AL and we rarely have any ice on the roads and it snows down here once every blue moon, so I'm not really in need of an all season tire.



    I copied this from Calvin in another thread...

    1) what size are you looking for? 245/40/17

    2) whats your budget?$150 or less per tire

    3) whats the primary use of the tires? DD

    4) rate these items in terms of importance for you (1 through 6)

    a) grip 5

    b) longevity (treadwear) 1

    c) wet traction 3

    d) dry traction 2

    e) ability to withstand heat cycles (auto-x/track events) 6

    f) price 4



    Suggestions?

    #2
    The old Goodyear F1 GSD-3 was great for all your requirements, with occasional DE's I was getting 20k+ miles but they have stopped making this tire...



    I am looking for a new tire 10k miles from now...everyone loves the Dunlop Star Spec but I heard they howl so I would avoid them.

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      #3
      Hankook Ventus V12 EVO @ 106 per tire


      I advise against looking further if longevity is more important than others. Its dry and wet grip are also very very very damn good and the price? well, 44 bucks cheaper than your ceiling per tire adds up to 176 kept in your pocket


      Originally posted by T2
      I am looking for a new tire 10k miles from now...everyone loves the Dunlop Star Spec but I heard they howl so I would avoid them.
      they do howl a very low pitch grumble. It s not bad really

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        #4
        Originally posted by das borgen
        Hankook Ventus V12 EVO @ 106 per tire



        I advise against looking if longevity is more important than others. Its dry and wet grip are also very very very damn good and the price? well, 44 bucks cheaper than your ceiling per tire adds up to 176 kept in your pocket









        they do howl a very low pitch grumble. It s not bad really
        I have these. I like them. Very sticky and they absorb the bumps from my horrible streets very well. Sidewall lacks a little in strength. It's a good DD tire for sure.

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          #5
          To be honest if you want something cheaper for a DD get Suminomo HTRZ's (I think that is what the all-seasons are called). Cheap and would be good for your needs.


          I know Nick has ran these before and I am running on them right now and even did an auto-x on them, they held up pretty good.


          The side wall's are a bit soft, road noise is normal. But hey! i am not complaining, for a DD they fit rather well.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Aavi
            To be honest if you want something cheaper for a DD get Suminomo HTRZ's
            Bingo! We run the HTR ZIIIs on the sedan and they not only perform extremely well at autoX but seem to last forever. Fairly quiet and super cheap and look good.

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              #7
              Originally posted by EricSMG
              Bingo! We run the HTR ZIIIs on the sedan and they not only perform extremely well at autoX but seem to last forever. Fairly quiet and super cheap and look good.
              How many miles have you put on them?

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                #8
                I got about 15k on a pair of rear HTRZIIIs with blown suspension. I'd get them again.

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                  #9
                  HTRZ III's are my daily driven tires and they've been great. I've been competitive autoxing with them as well. Great tire for the $ imo.

                  There is a big difference between the HTRZ and the HTRZ III. The III is the one to get.

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                    #10
                    I got the HTRZ IIs on now. The dry traction isn't all so great, but the wet traction is absolutely horrendous. I just wanted some cheap, long-lasting rubber to get me through this year until I get some new wheels. Don't know if I'll make it; these tires are down-right dangerous in the wet. Back on topic...don't get the the HTRZ-IIs. lol

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                      #11
                      I've had my HTRZ III's on the car for about 10K miles now. I haven't measured the tread, but it's say it's at about 50% or so, give or take.



                      My car isn't a DD, so it basically gets driven in hooligan mode almost 100% of the time it's on the road. They've held up well. The noise floor hasn't gone up at all, the wear is even, and they grip more than I expected them to.



                      A few things to note are that they're terrible in the wet, and that the side walls are awfully soft. It makes them feel mushy.



                      If I DD'd the car, i'd likely buy them again. I've been pretty happy with them. Though I drive the thing 8K miles a year and i'm either driving the piss out of it, or it's on an autoX course. It was time to move onto something that gripped harder, and I doubt i'll want to go back to a tire that doesn't perform as well.



                      I'd buy them for my DD though.

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                        #12
                        I've got the ZIIIs on my 530 and they're lasting a long time, albeit I don't push that car too hard.


                        For just a little more than your $150 target, you could get Toyo T1-Rs, at least that's what they used to cost. Good tire and has held up well.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by das borgen
                          Hankook Ventus V12 EVO @ 106 per tire



                          I advise against looking further if longevity is more important than others. Its dry and wet grip are also very very very damn good and the price? well, 44 bucks cheaper than your ceiling per tire adds up to 176 kept in your pocket









                          they do howl a very low pitch grumble. It s not bad really
                          This is the only tire I would consider in your case. You will not beat the performance for $ with this one. Plus they are very quiet, a great bonus for long drives.

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                            #14
                            Have a look on Conti Extreme contact DW, should last longer than others with treadwear rating of 340.

                            Also this tire is getting really good reviews.

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                              #15
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