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    Okay okay Uncle .. I give up .. maybe I drive too hard. I'm new to my 97M3 which has all dinan mods (except compressor). Sometimes when I get on my car hard it doesn't perform like a performance car should. When shifted at 6500 it'll puff a little blue smoke (my 72 CSL did that and it was normal to use a little oil). When short shifted the clutch slips.



    Clutch Slip (my mechanic drove it and said great power & clutch is fine). If I press too har too fast it'll slip (ie, power not getting to the tires). Just today I missed a 5500 rpm up shift went from 2nd to 5th at around 60mph .... there was no more acceleration only slip .. same as when I accelerate too hard. The mechanic says that M3 clutches will do that especially when hot after hard driving. Not very comforting if I need power drifting the car into a corner.



    Possibly related -- sometimes off the line or after a 90 degree 1st gear turn the car will stall/hesitate/stumble ... I thought it was my nearly slick tires tripping the ASC so I got new GY F1s all around and it still does it. If I don't lift and catch the motor before the stall it'll die and then after the restart it'll act like a flooded carb. car and die unless I rev to 4000 and slip the clutch to get the car going.



    This M3 is fun but it has quirks like those darn prancing horse cars and frankly my TurboSupra has the same power and none of the temperament. I purchased the M3 used from a well known AMLS prototype racer who miss represented the car so of course I'm worried that these bugs aren't common to the M3 but may be a sign of bigger problems (like the oil puff at hard shifts).



    Any ideas or suggestions? The car has 68K miles and spent most of it's time in FLA, AZ & Cali.

    #2
    I found this old thread and someone posted this nuggett.



    "do not Powershift/speedshift as there is a Valve in the Clutch line which restricts/delays fluid making the clutch slip if you hurry your shifts."



    Any truth to this? Now what about the smoke puff when shifting at 6500rpm??

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      #3
      i'm not sure of the clutch slipping, b/c i personally have not experienced it. as for the car bogging down - the only time i've experienced that is when the ACS is on .. so all i do there is turn it of. As for the puff of smoke - mine does that! ... i spoke to my mechanic and he said it is normal...



      anyone else to add there comments

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        #4
        Are you taking your car to a BMW Mechanic? I don't believe the clutch should slip one bit. I just had to replace mine because it was slipping. Now mine doesn't slip at shifting at all. Its the OEM Replacement, SACHS from bimmerworld, for like 273 bucks I think. Anyways, your clutch shouldn't be slipping unless your reving the engine and dropping the clutch. If thats the case, stop that, you gain nothing. Your car should not be stalling for any reason except for going way to slow. Get your car checked up, it seems like it needs some love.



        What year is your supra and m3? If its not the twin turbo your m3 is suffering. The twin turbo supra automatic atleast is a tick faster than the m3. If its the MKIII supra you've run into problems unless its souped up.

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          #5
          if i remember correctly Our M cars dont have Clutch delay valves.. but all other 3 ser or 5 ser manual cars do.

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            #6
            they do have CDV's.



            http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_techtip/techtips/check_valve.htm

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              #7
              Your clutch should not slip like that. Maybe you should look at the UUC LT weight Fly and M5 Clutch upgrade as it can handle some extra power, including S/C applications.



              Your mechanic is not correct. The 2nd - 5th test is a dead giveaway that your clutch is going out.

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                #8
                I've never seen this problem... new clutch and flywheel seem to be in order.

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                  #9
                  When I first got my M3 I thought I needed a new clutch because I would notice it would start slipping after a few minutes of hard driving. It turned out I just needed to change my shifting habits. I was used to my old Integra in which I had to slip the clutch between shifts to get the most power down. However on the M3 clutch, any intentional slipping just causes the clutch to heat up and not grab. Once I started shifting faster and making sure that I didn't re-apply the throttle until the clutch was totally engaged, I had no problems.



                  As for the traction control, I leave it off because it is pretty much worthless.

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                    #10
                    Just put the car in 5th at 30 and mash the gas, if it slips, your clutch is done.



                    It shouldn't matter what heat we're talking about.



                    A 2-5 "misshift" is very common just because the gate that separates 3 from 5 is really really weak. Does your shifter rest under 5th gear naturally when the car is cold. Like, push the selector under 5th...does it stay there?

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