I've seen the dark side: porsche

[m3f_astan100_7ef66fbe89]

Regardless of how good the Boxster may or may not be, if you care about image (which you must at some level to be buying a car of this magnitude)...a lot of car guys look at boxsters as women's cars. I'm not saying I personally do...ok, I kinda do...but it's sorta the stigma that goes with them.



There was a roadfly meet that I went to back in Austin, TX and they sent out an email talking about it. They said, "All cars are welcome. Heck, you can even bring your wife's boxster!"



Ironically, I bought my car from a guy who own my m3 and a boxster S. His was all tracked out too...I have to admit that it was pretty cool. he auto-x'ed it all the time.



My biggest complaint about the Boxster is that it looks the pretty much the same from the front and the rear and the performance isn't that much stronger than competition that is 20k cheaper. Everyone has their likes and dislikes though...so if you want it, then go for it.

[m3f_o_0]

Hate to say it but I really like the new 5 series shape - it looks awesome. Not too hot on the 7 series though. And man with 507BHP and a possible unlimited top speed of 205MPH it's gonna 0wn. :-)



New M3 will be the bollox too. It's gonna be great.





As for Porsche - the Boxter is a girls car - like the Z3. Even the E36 M3 is faster to 60 and beyond than the Boxter S. Now if you were saying 911. I'd say 1337 - do it. :-)



911's 0wn j00



/o

[m3f_astan100_7ef66fbe89]

I really really don't like I-drive as a side note. You have to scroll through so many crazy menus to get to things. It's not worth it. I'd rather just know where the buttons are in my car so I can reach to the same spot everyday.

[m3f_VTRick01_f4e20f34c1]

I don't think you can knock BMW for trying to keep their cars technologically advanced, but even they have admitted it in not so many words that they overdid it and strayed away from their roots too far. Their signature steering feel is gone in half the cars they make, substitued with electronic gizmos and ratio changers that make it feel number. The iDrive on the 7 series I believe now even has a sticker on the dash explaining how to use iDrive. The styling IMO has gotten American-ified and they are all looking like clunky pontiacs. The window controls on the 5 series are now on the doors, the headlights look like eyes with eyelashes from a porn star, and the dash is now sitting too high, is too chunky, and doesn't blend at all with the rest of the lines in the car. Mercedes' styling is evolutionary and classy (although I wouldnt' buy one); BMW's is now being different just to be different and taking an ugly turn for the worse...

[m3f_KUpolo]

Porsche is not the dark side, it is the goal as far as I'm concerned.



The Boxter S is a sweet machine. It is very much a driver's car. Porsche balanced it perfectly. The new Boxter is being upped to 240 hp and the S will have 280. these are certainly respectable numbers for such a small car.



IMO though, the ultimate roadster is the Lotus Elise. 0-60 in under 5 seconds from only 190 hp!!!! The car weighs less than 2000 lbs and is supposed to be able to hold 1.0g in the skip pad.

[m3f_fabio_4388f721e9]

WHAT THE HELL IS IDRIVE!! :bugeye:

[m3f_sfoster_f5bf245797]

boxsters are roughly 45K right? i'd take that money and find an 87-92 930 turbo with low miles and have my way with many cars out there. if you are a porsche enthusiast, i don't believe you would buy a boxster.



i saw a brand new lotus last week in vegas and it was pretty cool. very exotic styling and it really caught your eye. the only draw back would be that a bigger guy just won't fit in it.

[m3f_Kevin034]

You guys know I'm a huge bmw fan but lately I just can't find a bmw that I really like. :fuming: I'm really disappointed with my e46 M3 test drive. In fact the only bmw that I would consider buying at this point is the M roadster. Unfortunately they don't even make that car anymore. I walked over to the Porsche dealership and checked out some porsche boxsters. The s type is bad ass! Its got a 3.2 L engine with 250hp. I really hope bmw makes an M version of the z4 or I'll end up on the dark side. :antismili

Boxsters are for chicks. Don't be a sissie.

[m3f_VTRick01_f4e20f34c1]

do a google on iDrive. It's a system BMW developed to control all but the most basic operations in the car. Menus are not very intuitive and you have to click it many times to just get it to chance radio stations or change temp in car...stuff like that.

[m3f_sfoster_f5bf245797]

if porsche is the "dark side" then i can't wait to get there. see you in hell. that's where all the cool people are going anyway.

[m3f_KUpolo]

Boxsters are for chicks. Don't be a sissie.





Kev:



Just wondering is there a "non-sissie" sub $100K roadster?

[m3f_Kevin034]

Kev:



Just wondering is there a "non-sissie" sub $100K roadster?

Nope, it's 100% sissie.

[m3f_nmaino_c8ba8e1c71]

CMT: quoted by SG M3:

"Drive the boxster, its great. Good power, Great balance. Most who talk bad about them probably have never really driven one."



He might not have talked about the Boxster S specifically, but he did talk about the Boxster and this is what this whole conversation has been about. Wake up buddy!



Kevin034: Sure, there are a bunch of sub-100k roadsters; the Lotus Super7, Lotus Elan, Ferrari 348 Spyder, 996 Cab, Corvette Convertible, Beck 550, Vintage 550, Nissan 350 R, ect . . .

[m3f_Kevin034]

CMT: quoted by SG M3:

"Drive the boxster, its great. Good power, Great balance. Most who talk bad about them probably have never really driven one."



He might not have talked about the Boxster S specifically, but he did talk about the Boxster and this is what this whole conversation has been about. Wake up buddy!



Kevin034: Sure, there are a bunch of sub-100k roadsters; the Lotus Super7, Lotus Elan, Ferrari 348 Spyder, 996 Cab, Corvette Convertible, Beck 550, Vintage 550, Nissan 350 R, ect . . .

Yeah, and all of those roadsters are all really good cars. Money has nothing to do w/ the fact that the boxster is a sissie's car.

[m3f_///sleeper_f29d08a5a4]

if porsche is the "dark side" then i can't wait to get there. see you in hell. that's where all the cool people are going anyway.



Yes! that's awesome...