Same place had a 1997 BMW E36 M3 European-Spec for sale for $95k CDN, which is now sold. http://www.rennsportauto.com/inventory/
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Flip screen head units are so 2001 yuck! Also whats the deal with craigslist? Theyre asking a lot of money for the car. At least invest some money and put it for sale on a proper platform.
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Originally posted by Duck360198 View PostI sold the front bumper, rear diffuser, rear deck lid, door cards, rear seats, center console, and slick top headliner about 4 years ago. All OEM parts. I’ll look those up. I kept the front seats because they were too nice to sell. I have a factory modified air box up for sale now. All the stuff I sold is probably double now.
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I sold the front bumper, rear diffuser, rear deck lid, door cards, rear seats, center console, and slick top headliner about 4 years ago. All OEM parts. I’ll look those up. I kept the front seats because they were too nice to sell. I have a factory modified air box up for sale now. All the stuff I sold is probably double now.
on a side note, I enjoyed this video comparing an e46 m3 (vert) to a CSL.
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Originally posted by yhp2009 View Post
That is quite impressive for that price point. But im sure the only way to get there is to start with a high mileage m3 possibly with a history (or not depending on your luck). You gotta admit its not a fair comparison to a 15k original mile CSLLast edited by fullyflaredd; 07-03-2021, 09:28 AM.
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Originally posted by fullyflaredd View Post
My last m3 was about $35k all in with CSL cams, Karb airbox, carbon roof, high end KW competiton 2 way suspension, AP racing brakes, zcp steering rack, recaros, etc. It weighed a little under 3100lbs and was corner balanced to have perfect weight distribution. Oh and it made 360whp, and there wasn't a single squeak or rattle or strange noises if you want to talk about factory fit and finish. So yes, it was by all means a CSL killer for significantly less money.
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Nobody is cross-shopping this with a gt3. Period. Its comparison price is irrelevant.
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Originally posted by 01SG View PostThe audacity on this forum is astounding. Almost as bad as the Porsche guys.
Let's see it then. Where is this 15k mile CSL replica, excuse me, CSL killer, that was so cheap to build?
No one has informed me how the weight reduction happens in a balanced manner, how they surpass the CSL so cheaply. You can get lighter wheels exhaust, suspension, brakes, and lose the back seat in a CSL too. I want to see this
A low mileage, factory original light weight car is likely just better to drive and better put together. You can't replicate that for cheap and that's a fact. The CSL has resale value that a replica wouldn't, making up for any difference. Simple as that.
And you guys trash the 550 Maranello? Are you kidding? You must be kidding.
And who here has even driven the CSL? I want first hand testimony. There was this same argument on the UK forum, and the majority came down on my side.
In fact early used prices of the CSL showed the fact that it wasn't that much more special than a standard car. People weren't willing to pay that much over a standard car. And at that point you could even make the argument that the CSL was a bargain. However with the current market and everyone speculating left and right, any low numbers cars get snatched up and has an obscene price put on it. It has nothing to do with the driving experience (well not nothing, but it's not the main factor). It's about rarity and prominence, and that's fine. I don't get why this is difficult to understand. Obviously the CSL will always be worth a ton more. It's a low numbers factory special.
By the way, do you know how much a CSL actually weighs? Unless it's a fully stripped variant (no aircon, radio delete), it's not as light as you would think, albeit still light. My previous car was lighter, and my current m3 is pretty close in terms of weight. All without ruining the weight balance and NVH.Last edited by fullyflaredd; 07-03-2021, 01:43 PM.
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Adjusted for inflation, the CSL sold for around $100,000 new. Ultimately, I don't believe anyone can do better than the factory for much less, in terms of driving experience or fit and finish. I bet anyone who could afford the CSL would prefer it over tarting up a standard car to the same spec, even at the current price, though that relationship may very well become more skewed over time.
Not saying the CSL is comparable to a new GT3, only that it's the ultimate e46, bar none.
Of course, the 550 is nothing like a GT3, aside from the high revving engine. Though, to be fair, it was faster around the Ring than the hottest contemporary Porsche, the 993 Turbo. And with that divine interior, no less. That's just the car I aspire to own. I think a Ferrari V12 is probably more fun than any Porsche anything on the street. That is stupid enough to say, though, totally different things.
This is a better dream in this context. 911 Cup car for racing, old school 911 for the road. Then there are the Ferrari Challenge cars...
And I don't know, a E36 M3 LTW would probably be a blast on the road. More feedback than the standard car I'm sure, even if the limits are higher. It's not overly powerful, either.Last edited by 01SG; 07-03-2021, 08:13 AM.
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Could the same be said for, let’s say, an E30 M3 Evo II or the E36 M3 LTW? Terrific cars but probably horrible for anything outside the track. I think at this point it’s more of the exclusivity and ability to own one of these gorgeous machines that are getting harder and harder to find. Price can be debatable but one thing’s for sure, there’s never going to be anything like the CSL anymore. Not a direct comparison but older cars like ‘70 Cudas and Challengers are so rare and hard to find that prices will go up and up, even more if they’re matching number cars and special models. Maybe it’s worth the buy, maybe not.
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