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  • jet_dogg
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    Originally posted by Casa de Mesa View Post

    well said
    We all know jet black is the fastest, I mean it's named after a fucking jet.

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  • Maxima SE
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    Originally posted by tcp View Post

    Four previous owners and 120k miles have made the interior a little rough... The exterior still looks nice, though.

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    I wish lagos looked as good on the E92. Sometimes I wish went with Lemans instead.

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  • Maxima SE
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    Originally posted by lemoose View Post

    PY is almost objectively bad. But I guess there is a growing group of people that like to be contrarians and purposefully look for these. We can remove it from the scale as it can be a bit of a wildcard, then.
    the few contrarians don't really care what the other 99% of the community thinks of PY. There are too few of these to go around and all it takes is 2 people to start a bidding war. an 01 sold for 55k today and they're only gonna go up in value

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  • Casa de Mesa
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    Originally posted by oldFanatic View Post
    Yeah I was just joking about color. BMW offers a bunch because we all have different tastes.
    well said

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  • old///MFanatic
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    Originally posted by cobra View Post
    I'd still pick my current color combo JB and non-ZCP if I was buying it new. I do love IB too!
    Yeah I was just joking about color. BMW offers a bunch because we all have different tastes.

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  • cobra
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    Originally posted by oldFanatic View Post
    No brainer..like asking if you’d wish you had bought ten shares of Apple or thirty back then.

    Exclusive Interlagos Blue paint color choice is key. Who doesn’t like IB? You’d have to not like puppies to not like IB..and what kinda person doesn’t like puppies? 😉
    I'd still pick my current color combo JB and non-ZCP if I was buying it new. I do love IB too!

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  • tcp
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    Originally posted by Thoglan View Post

    Gonna need some photos of this car. Sounds like a beautiful spec.
    Four previous owners and 120k miles have made the interior a little rough... The exterior still looks nice, though.

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  • oceansize
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    Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

    There's also this estoril: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-bmw-m3-coupe-45/

    But I get the point, not enough cars to make the data meaningful for those colors. I guess that explains my surprise
    Scraper didn't pull that Estoril, I updated the spread sheet.

    The charts are really useful for "popular" colors and the price discrepancies between transmissions and body type. Undeniable that tiag and carbon black are the least valuable but on average the difference is completely inconsequential. We are talking a few thousand dollars unless you have a really nice LSB, IB, OG, Violet, or something that is in another way very special. The average value of Tiag is 23,211 vs the average value of Imola at 28,714. So if you have something low mileage and a good color combo then great, if you don't you are talking 5k of difference on average, for me personally that is a giant who cares with respect to color and its worth. We are never hitting Z8 money. We all like what we like.

    We have 450 data points from BAT, no need to guess about worth anymore.
    Last edited by oceansize; 11-02-2021, 04:11 PM.

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  • Tbonem3
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    Originally posted by oldFanatic View Post

    Exclusive Interlagos Blue paint color choice is key. Who doesn’t like IB? You’d have to not like puppies to not like IB..and what kinda person doesn’t like puppies? 😉
    Fauci

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  • heinzboehmer
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    Originally posted by oceansize View Post
    Throw out the Topaz column because there hasn't been a really "good" example roll through BAT and only six total have been auctioned. The orange was a respray. Only one Estoril ever at BAT.

    This is the best topaz. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-bmw-m3-112/
    Orange: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-bmw-m3-coupe-53/
    Estoril: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-bmw-m3-coupe-39/
    There's also this estoril: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-bmw-m3-coupe-45/

    But I get the point, not enough cars to make the data meaningful for those colors. I guess that explains my surprise

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  • oceansize
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    Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

    Estoril below tiag and carbon black? That's surprising.

    Not trying to start a "which color is best" debate, but estoril is significantly rarer than the other two, so I would have thought that would have driven the price up.

    Also, I guess that makes topaz the least desirable color, even though other posters seems to think it adds value lol (well, except for that one orange one which I'm assuming is a wrap/repaint).
    Originally posted by Casa de Mesa View Post

    Wanna see if we can get a two-for-one special on resprays? 😁
    Throw out the Topaz column because there hasn't been a really "good" example roll through BAT and only six total have been auctioned. The orange was a respray. Only one Estoril ever at BAT.

    This is the best topaz. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-bmw-m3-112/
    Orange: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-bmw-m3-coupe-53/
    Estoril: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-bmw-m3-coupe-39/

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  • old///MFanatic
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    Originally posted by cobra View Post
    I don't understand why the E46 M3 ZCP is often regarded as the "highest" spec.

    Go back to 2006 - would you buy a ZCP or regular model?
    No brainer..like asking if you’d wish you had bought ten shares of Apple or thirty back then.

    Exclusive Interlagos Blue paint color choice is key. Who doesn’t like IB? You’d have to not like puppies to not like IB..and what kinda person doesn’t like puppies? 😉

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  • Thoglan
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    Originally posted by tcp View Post

    50 + 5 (manual seats) + 5 (2003.5) + 10 (Mystic Blue) + 10 (slicktop) + 10 (M Tex) = 90.

    Seems legit.
    Gonna need some photos of this car. Sounds like a beautiful spec.

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  • Casa de Mesa
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    Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post
    Also, I guess that makes topaz the least desirable color, even though other posters seems to think it adds value lol (well, except for that one orange one which I'm assuming is a wrap/repaint).
    Wanna see if we can get a two-for-one special on resprays? 😁

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  • heinzboehmer
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    Originally posted by oceansize View Post
    Average by Color:

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    Estoril below tiag and carbon black? That's surprising.

    Not trying to start a "which color is best" debate, but estoril is significantly rarer than the other two, so I would have thought that would have driven the price up.


    Also, I guess that makes topaz the least desirable color, even though other posters seems to think it adds value lol (well, except for that one orange one which I'm assuming is a wrap/repaint).

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