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  • oceansize
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    The CSL is the one time I'm going to own a collector's car and it will be driven just enough to prevent rot. Of course I will have to resign from this forum since my excrement will cease to be offensively malodorous.

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  • thegenius46m
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    Originally posted by Sharocks View Post

    That's a very silver grey area (hehe)

    The ones that are here most of them came from Canada or Japan. I know of one from Germany but it's literally just being stored until it can be federally legalized.

    I've also driven a few CSLs, and even though they're pretty cool, they're not worth the extra effort and expense when you can literally build the car cheaper.

    The window on CSLs and really any M car of that vintage is kinda over. Even if you found one in Germany with miles on it etc, you'd still be out over 100k USD.

    The CSL is not a 100k USD experience, I will tell you that point blank. If it's your dream car, sure go for it, but it's still just an E46 M3 which you already own.
    For 100k I could just put that into my current E46 and make a better CSL. Oh wait already there... 🤣

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  • Slicktop
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    Originally posted by Duck360198 View Post

    Didn't think about the Japanese market. I typically look in the EU so those Japanese cars may be in the 60s. I'd be shocked if those Swiss cars get negotiated from $78K down to the 60s, but maybe they do. Munich Legends definitely gets some great examples of so many BMW's. What's crazy is what the RHD market has done. I remember when CSL's seemed like they were 30%-40% cheaper than LHD counterparts. Now, RHD cars have completely skyrocketed. On top of that, people are converting RHD to LHD and importing into LHD countries. Wild stuff.
    Yeah there is a place in Maryland that will do conversions mainly for million dollar cars from RHD to LHD for Show and Display but I heard awhile ago they would do CSLs for their clients too

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  • Duck360198
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    Originally posted by Slicktop View Post

    Side bar to answer OPs question: https://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/04...03-bmw-m3-csl/

    This was recent in that price range: https://www.beforward.jp/bmw/m3/bf660847/id/785565/

    These guys know the market the best however :https://www.munichlegends.co.uk/bmw-...r-bmw-for-sale

    Also these cars have been negotiated down from asking:

    Lust auf Auto? Über 90'000 Autos. Finde Deins! Occasion Auto kaufen & verkaufen in der Schweiz. AUTOLINA findet Dein Wunschauto, ob Auto Occasionen oder Neuwagen!


    Lust auf Auto? Über 90'000 Autos. Finde Deins! Occasion Auto kaufen & verkaufen in der Schweiz. AUTOLINA findet Dein Wunschauto, ob Auto Occasionen oder Neuwagen!


    I should have saved the listings I initially thought of but they have been purged. That Japan car though should have been 7.4 Million Yen
    Didn't think about the Japanese market. I typically look in the EU so those Japanese cars may be in the 60s. I'd be shocked if those Swiss cars get negotiated from $78K down to the 60s, but maybe they do. Munich Legends definitely gets some great examples of so many BMW's. What's crazy is what the RHD market has done. I remember when CSL's seemed like they were 30%-40% cheaper than LHD counterparts. Now, RHD cars have completely skyrocketed. On top of that, people are converting RHD to LHD and importing into LHD countries. Wild stuff.

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  • Slicktop
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    Originally posted by Duck360198 View Post

    Links? Everything I’ve seen has been at a minimum of €75k. I haven’t seen anything in the 60s in quite some time. Would love to know where these are being sold.
    Side bar to answer OPs question: https://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/04...03-bmw-m3-csl/

    This was recent in that price range: https://www.beforward.jp/bmw/m3/bf660847/id/785565/

    These guys know the market the best however :https://www.munichlegends.co.uk/bmw-...r-bmw-for-sale

    Also these cars have been negotiated down from asking:

    Lust auf Auto? Über 90'000 Autos. Finde Deins! Occasion Auto kaufen & verkaufen in der Schweiz. AUTOLINA findet Dein Wunschauto, ob Auto Occasionen oder Neuwagen!


    Lust auf Auto? Über 90'000 Autos. Finde Deins! Occasion Auto kaufen & verkaufen in der Schweiz. AUTOLINA findet Dein Wunschauto, ob Auto Occasionen oder Neuwagen!


    I should have saved the listings I initially thought of but they have been purged. That Japan car though should have been 7.4 Million Yen

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  • simonnim
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    I'm starting to feel that way about e46 m3s in general. One in 5/10 shape with subframe done is at least 16-17k. Mods, other big 3. You're upwards of 25+. Maybe I'm frugal, but, spending that much on a 20 year old car makes me cringe. I'm like 18 in so far with subframe, rod bearings, suspension rebuild and upgrades and track equipment. I still cringe a bit.

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  • Duck360198
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    Originally posted by Slicktop View Post

    Watched 3 sell for under 65k Euros within the last 2 months. They are too far out for most people to sit on. If you’re a millionaire sure, but most people I've talked to are more focused on getting E36 GTs into the country atm.
    Links? Everything I’ve seen has been at a minimum of €75k. I haven’t seen anything in the 60s in quite some time. Would love to know where these are being sold.

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  • Slicktop
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    Originally posted by Sharocks View Post

    That's a very silver grey area (hehe)

    The ones that are here most of them came from Canada or Japan. I know of one from Germany but it's literally just being stored until it can be federally legalized.

    I've also driven a few CSLs, and even though they're pretty cool, they're not worth the extra effort and expense when you can literally build the car cheaper.

    The window on CSLs and really any M car of that vintage is kinda over. Even if you found one in Germany with miles on it etc, you'd still be out over 100k USD.

    The CSL is not a 100k USD experience, I will tell you that point blank. If it's your dream car, sure go for it, but it's still just an E46 M3 which you already own.
    Watched 3 sell for under 65k Euros within the last 2 months. They are too far out for most people to sit on. If you’re a millionaire sure, but most people I've talked to are more focused on getting E36 GTs into the country atm.

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  • Tbonem3
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    FK CSL H8R

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  • Sharocks
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    Originally posted by PurelliCondoms View Post

    I believe that people might be able to get one in via the "exceptionally similar" clause. thoughts?
    That's a very silver grey area (hehe)

    The ones that are here most of them came from Canada or Japan. I know of one from Germany but it's literally just being stored until it can be federally legalized.

    I've also driven a few CSLs, and even though they're pretty cool, they're not worth the extra effort and expense when you can literally build the car cheaper.

    The window on CSLs and really any M car of that vintage is kinda over. Even if you found one in Germany with miles on it etc, you'd still be out over 100k USD.

    The CSL is not a 100k USD experience, I will tell you that point blank. If it's your dream car, sure go for it, but it's still just an E46 M3 which you already own.

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  • PurelliCondoms
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    Originally posted by Sharocks View Post
    Well primarily most of them are not here fully federalized and legal.

    I know of one through a client, that's from PR but it spends time in Miami.

    25 years is still a thing.

    We're at 18.

    The move now is to buy one and store it until you can bring it over.
    I believe that people might be able to get one in via the "exceptionally similar" clause. thoughts?

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  • Sharocks
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    Well primarily most of them are not here fully federalized and legal.

    I know of one through a client, that's from PR but it spends time in Miami.

    25 years is still a thing.

    We're at 18.

    The move now is to buy one and store it until you can bring it over.

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  • PurelliCondoms
    started a topic CSL's in the US

    CSL's in the US

    I've heard of about 4 or 5 OEM Csl's in the states. Does anyone know one of the owners personally and could get me in touch with them? Curious on importations and I'm willing to sign NDA's.
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