KW V3 vs. Stock Suspension Refresh for Street Driving

[Obioban]

What spring rate would you recommend for daily/occasional track?

Something ~1.8hz front, 2.0hz rear is what I'd aim for.

[Kdubski]

That is, IMO, one of the best setups sold for this car.

What spring rate would you recommend for daily/occasional track?

[RazorM]

I can see people here bashin V3, Have anybody of you guys tried KW V3 converted to flat ride spring rates and proper setup?

[bavarian3]

Is the tck 14mm (versus typical 16mm)?

Will Turner or GC not include a bearing (14mm i.d. to 16mm o.d.)?

I use a bearing in order to put my 14mm MCS into tns street plates. Vorshlag includes the bearing I know for a fact.

It sounds to me like non M is 14mm then.

I'm not sure about height being an issue, I don't see how it could be.

Not sure! You're talking about the sleeve correct? I assume GC can provide it. Come to think of it I'll bet they're a better place to ask than TCK. I'll try em on Mon

[Tbonem3]

Is the tck 14mm (versus typical 16mm)?

Will Turner or GC not include a bearing (14mm i.d. to 16mm o.d.)?

I use a bearing in order to put my 14mm MCS into tns street plates. Vorshlag includes the bearing I know for a fact.

It sounds to me like non M is 14mm then.

I'm not sure about height being an issue, I don't see how it could be.

[bavarian3]

Turner’s or GC’s will work.

resurfacing this as I asked this question to TCK. he said they won't work, not sure if he's mistaken. he mentioned to use non-M camber plates. hard to get info via email and they don't answer their phone

[fattycharged]

I’ll try the 400/700 setup before deciding if I want to go softer in the rear. The car will still have sort of a street/track setup and will retain all of the monoball parts (for now). I think Obi used 375+350/700+675, and if he felt that the car rode great and was compliant on the street, I’m sure I’ll be happy, too.

Depends what streets you're driving on. In Houston, 700 rear is jarring. In Austin, may be a different story, depending on what part of town you frequent.

[D-O]

Thanks. I got the impression from the Turner and TCK sites that the diameter and height of the TCK damper would be a problem. TCK site says the stock strut shaft is shorter and larger in diameter than the TCK part.

[Obioban]

Anyone know if there is a "street" camber plate that will work with the front TCK SA dampers? After perhaps going too far with my rear suspension I definitely don't want a harsh camber plate setup it the front. I looked and the Turners, but it looks like they will work only with dampers designed to work with the stock upper mount.

Turner’s or GC’s will work.

[repoman89]

Anyone know if there is a "street" camber plate that will work with the front TCK SA dampers? After perhaps going too far with my rear suspension I definitely don't want a harsh camber plate setup it the front. I looked and the Turners, but it looks like they will work only with dampers designed to work with the stock upper mount.

Turner separately sells spring perches for 2.25” and 2.5” diameter springs. I’m using the 2.5” mounts on my street plates right now with Ohlins

[D-O]

Anyone know if there is a "street" camber plate that will work with the front TCK SA dampers? After perhaps going too far with my rear suspension I definitely don't want a harsh camber plate setup it the front. I looked and the Turners, but it looks like they will work only with dampers designed to work with the stock upper mount.

[K-Dawg]

I’ll try the 400/700 setup before deciding if I want to go softer in the rear. The car will still have sort of a street/track setup and will retain all of the monoball parts (for now). I think Obi used 375+350/700+675, and if he felt that the car rode great and was compliant on the street, I’m sure I’ll be happy, too.

I think you mean softer in the front? In fact, for what springs cost, I would buy a pair of 300-325lb springs instead of installing the 400s you already own.

[cobra]

I’ll try the 400/700 setup before deciding if I want to go softer in the rear. The car will still have sort of a street/track setup and will retain all of the monoball parts (for now). I think Obi used 375+350/700+675, and if he felt that the car rode great and was compliant on the street, I’m sure I’ll be happy, too.

Everyone has their own idea of what compliant means, and is also going to depend on the road quality where you live. 400's are 2.6 times as stiff as stock springs so there's going to be an increase in stiffness no matter what anyone says, and some people already complain about the stock setup being stiff. Obviously the damper has a lot to do with that, but they each play a role together with bushings, bump rubbers, and tire to give an overall feel.

Of course since you already have the springs, might as well go for it. They're easy enough to change.

[SQ13]

I’ll try the 400/700 setup before deciding if I want to go softer in the rear. The car will still have sort of a street/track setup and will retain all of the monoball parts (for now). I think Obi used 375+350/700+675, and if he felt that the car rode great and was compliant on the street, I’m sure I’ll be happy, too.

[cobra]

Ooh okay, cool. Thanks for the info. I’m actually turning my track car back into a street car, so I’m trying to figure out what setup might work best for me. Thinking about trying 400/700 for the time being since the 700s are already installed, and I already own the 400s.

With 400/700 you're at ~2.12Hz front and rear. I still consider that kinda high for a street car... Above 2Hz will be pretty stiff. You might be better off with 300/500 if you're looking for comfort.