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  • liam821
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    Another option, you could do something like these sound makers. Cost me $50 for another stock airbox to pull the trumpets out (or free if you want to hack up your stock box), $125 in ITG filters, and $20 for a CSL IAT, oh and some sort of oil catch can for the PVC. Running a modified CSL tune I did myself, car runs awesome.

    With that said, using a CSL airbox is really the better solution, you get that cold air and it makes dealing with the PVC system easy. I don't really care for max power, I just wanted more sound, so this is perfect.

    P.S. This passes smog (DEQ) here where I live in Oregon.



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  • YoungDinosaur
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    Originally posted by maupineda View Post

    This may not help answering your question but I took mine off to sell, but I now missed it so much that will put it back on. If you listen to how the GT4 RS sounds, it gets you an idea how it is.

    mine is a Z4M
    Wow. Thanks for the feedback. I messaged the creator to see if he had E46 install instructions.

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  • maupineda
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    Originally posted by YoungDinosaur View Post
    Has anyone installed that Z4 M sound generator in their E46?
    This may not help answering your question but I took mine off to sell, but I now missed it so much that will put it back on. If you listen to how the GT4 RS sounds, it gets you an idea how it is.

    mine is a Z4M

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  • YoungDinosaur
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    Has anyone installed that Z4 M sound generator in their E46?

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  • Notan_S54
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    Originally posted by elrichmeister View Post

    Keep in mind this will pass smog computer check, but will fail visual. Needs to have a CARB EO number to pass visual test.
    Right. Where I am there is no visual, just obd2 plug in, so it’s what I go off. I understand you guys in California have it a bit tougher. Oof!

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  • Notan_S54
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    Originally posted by old///MFanatic View Post
    Correct. Here is IND distribution listing. I think they are karbonius sole distributor in the US now.
    Kit Includes: Airbox CNC machine-made items of anodized aluminum Stainless-steel screws Certificate of authenticity The M3 CSL Carbon Airbox is one of the most demanded improvements among E46 M3 enthusiasts. This is due to the performance gain of course, but even more enjoyable is the intake sound it brings to car. Unfortunately, upgrading to the CSL airbox is both labor intensive and time-consuming; requiring a number of additional parts, wiring, and software. As such, it's a rather expensive modification. For those who are looking for a similar sound to the CSL carbon airbox but are less concerned about a performance gain, Karbonius has developed an OEM Style S54 carbon airbox. It is a simplified version of the CSL airbox and, apart from the louder intake sound (+12 dB compared to plastic OEM airbox), provides an awesome appearance and easy installation using standard intake elbow and MAF. No need to install any additional hardware or a remap. Regarding a power increase, Karbonius observed +4HP compared to the OEM airbox in a recent dyno test. Not significant enough of a gain with a 2% margin of error. Therefore, pending any additional testing, they claim no significant power increase, but no HP loss either. NOTE: For E46 M3 SMG models, a genuine CSL SMG reservoir is needed. Product Details: Similar sound to CSL carbon airbox Saves roughly 8lbs compared to OEM plastic airbox No remap software required 100% Carbon Prepreg Cured in autoclave High gloss UV protection varnish 2 year guarantee 2005-2006 M3 models and Z4 require pre-2005 throttle body boots and modified crankcase breather hose (see installed photo; Eventuri intake not included) E46 M3 SMG package includes OEM M3 CSL SMG reservoir and bracket; OE mounting location is drivers' side strut tower Application Guide: E46 M3 E36/7 Z3M S54B32 (2001-02) E85 / E86 Z4M
    Last edited by Notan_S54; 03-27-2024, 03:56 PM.

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  • elrichmeister
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    Originally posted by Notan_S54 View Post
    Oh, and if you are worried about smog, karbonius now makes an oem carbon intake that produces the sound and uses the maf; so that may pass California inspections if it’s just the plug in test.
    Keep in mind this will pass smog computer check, but will fail visual. Needs to have a CARB EO number to pass visual test.

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  • old///MFanatic
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    Originally posted by YoungDinosaur View Post
    Do you have a link to this new intake?
    Think this is the one referred to.
    Web de Karbonius composites; diseño, elaboración y venta de piezas de fibra carbono para automoción

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  • YoungDinosaur
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    Originally posted by Notan_S54 View Post
    Oh, and if you are worried about smog, karbonius now makes an oem carbon intake that produces the sound and uses the maf; so that may pass California inspections if it’s just the plug in test.
    Do you have a link to this new intake?

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  • old///MFanatic
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    Originally posted by Teemmy View Post
    Does the gruppe M intake have any sound benefit? Seems like it should be similar to the eventuri except it has a snorkel to the front kidneys
    GruppeM is louder than stock but not as loud as Eventuri (which is an open filter inside engine bay). GruppeM a better design power wise. But the thread is about more intake sound so not the design you’re after.

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  • maupineda
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    Originally posted by Notan_S54 View Post

    This was what I was looking for! After having the Karb CSL box on my car it was time to move to a setup that didn’t require removing every two years. Good to know the eventuri + oem style setup still makes ~80% of the noise
    This was my path, Karb CSL to Karb OE + Eventuri. I do not regret it but I sometimes miss the deep growl from the CSL intake. Power wise is the same, and drivability is same as factory.

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  • Notan_S54
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    Originally posted by maupineda View Post
    Is better than stock plus Eventuri for sure, but I would say is not as loud, perhaps 80% of the volume. The sound is also a bit different as is higher in pitch and not as gutural as the CSL.

    i have the two setups, what you posted above and an actual CSL Karb.
    This was what I was looking for! After having the Karb CSL box on my car it was time to move to a setup that didn’t require removing every two years. Good to know the eventuri + oem style setup still makes ~80% of the noise

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  • Notan_S54
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    Originally posted by Nate047 View Post

    It’s a visual inspection too. Some places might turn a blind eye but a big ass carbon fiber intake manifold is really asking for it lol.
    Yeah I can’t imagine the intake being mistaken for oem on our cars lol

    It’s rough being a car enthusiast and wanting these sought after mods haha!

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  • maupineda
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    Is better than stock plus Eventuri for sure, but I would say is not as loud, perhaps 80% of the volume. The sound is also a bit different as is higher in pitch and not as gutural as the CSL.

    i have the two setups, what you posted above and an actual CSL Karb.

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  • EthanolTurbo
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    Originally posted by ViN View Post
    Has anyone tried this? I would be curious as to the sound comparison to a CSL. It claims most of that without the tuning headaches.
    https://ind-distribution.com/collect...fGd_Osgmr_2o0Q
    Looks like the greedy pricks at IND raised the price a few hundred bucks on this combo kit.

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