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  • ViN
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    Has anyone tried this? I would be curious as to the sound comparison to a CSL. It claims most of that without the tuning headaches.
    BMW E46 OEM STYLE AIRBOX, CSL Airbox is one of the most demanded improvements among BMW M3 E46 enthusiastic. That is both for performance gain, and for sound it brings to car. On the other hand, it is a laborious, time-consuming and expensive modification. For those who are looking for similar sound to CSL airbox but do not look for HP gain, we have developed the Karbonius OEM Style S54 airbox. It is a simplified version of CSL airbox, that, apart from louder sound to engine (+12 dB compared to plastic OEM) gives awesome appearance and easy installation using stock elbow and MAF. No needed to install any additional hardware or remap. *In SMG version, genuine BMW CSL SMG expansion tank needed. Regarding power increase, we got +4HP in recent dyno test comparing with OEM airbox. Not really significant considering that dyno can have a 2% margin error. In conclusion, and pending new test in future, we can say no significant power increase and no HP loss. As usual, piece manufactured 100% in carbon fiber prepreg, cured in autoclave in our facilities in Spain (EU) under strict quality requirement and for qualified stuff. Kit Includes: • Airbox • CNC machine-made items of anodized aluminium • Stainless-steel screws • Certificate of authenticity Characteristics: • Similar sound to CSL airbox • No remap needed • 100% Carbon Prepreg • Cured in autoclave • High gloss UV protection varnish • Perfect fit. No adjustment required • 2 years guarantee Fitment: • BMW E46 M3 • BMW E85/E86 Z4M

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  • Nate047
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    Originally posted by Notan_S54 View Post
    Oh, and if you are worried about smog, karbonius now makes an oem carbon intake that produces the sound and uses the maf; so that may pass California inspections if it’s just the plug in test.
    It’s a visual inspection too. Some places might turn a blind eye but a big ass carbon fiber intake manifold is really asking for it lol.

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  • Notan_S54
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    Oh, and if you are worried about smog, karbonius now makes an oem carbon intake that produces the sound and uses the maf; so that may pass California inspections if it’s just the plug in test.

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  • siamkazi
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    +1 on the CSL intake as well. Had an exhaust prior to install and thought to myself the intake wasn't as loud as I'd hoped. Then I went stock muffler (with high flow cats in section 1) and entire experience changed i.e. dial got turned to 11.

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  • Notan_S54
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    +1 on the CSL intake. I had the Karbonius CSL intake on my car and loved every minute of it! Will be up for sale as soon as I’m allowed to and will come with install kit! 🤙🏻
    edit: I’ll also add that the CSL intake is definitely loud, even with a head to section 3 exhaust. The difference in intake vs exhaust sound was very clear to me.
    Last edited by Notan_S54; 03-16-2024, 04:00 PM.

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  • Altaran
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    Originally posted by eforty6_m3 View Post

    With all due respect, I'm not sure I agree. I have a custom rear section and a Karbonious airbox and I can absolutely hear the gloriously intoxicating sound emanating from both ends (see what I did there), sooo.... 🤷‍♂️
    Depends on what custom rear end. My friend has a Friedrich Titanium exhaust and that thing just completely overpowers the intake. I have a OM Scorza and I can hear my Airbox quite well. Recently I also removed the sound insulation on both sides of the firewall, now I can hear it even better 😁

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  • Gearhead55
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    I have the haimus box and it is worth every penny. WOT high in the rev range with the windows down is unbeatable. I have catless headers and an el diablo exhaust with catted section 1 as well. Not a terribly loud exhaust set up, but not quiet. I don't feel like it interferes with the intake sound too much.

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  • eforty6_m3
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    Originally posted by Sharocks View Post
    If you have an exhaust, do not get a CSL intake.

    You won't hear it.
    With all due respect, I'm not sure I agree. I have a custom rear section and a Karbonious airbox and I can absolutely hear the gloriously intoxicating sound emanating from both ends (see what I did there), sooo.... 🤷‍♂️

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  • Sharocks
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    If you have an exhaust, do not get a CSL intake.

    You won't hear it.

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  • Bent_Remy
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    Originally posted by E46 M3 View Post
    If you only care about sound just get an Eventuri + sound generator and you'll be 95% there without all the hassle of a CSL box.

    https://youtu.be/nsXUZSa3W6U
    The SG sounds crazy! Definitely going to look into that.

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  • dukeofchen
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    Interesting, pretty reasonably priced too if you're just looking to enjoy the natural acoustics.

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  • Teemmy
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    thank you, I’ll take a look!

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  • 01SG
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    Originally posted by Teemmy View Post
    Does the gruppe M intake have any sound benefit? Seems like it should be similar to the eventuri except it has a snorkel to the front kidneys

    im also in CA trying to figure out what to do
    Sounds good to me. It is pretty clearly a better design as well. I'm not a fan of intakes that just open into the engine bay. That said, I got mine used and probably would not pay the new price. Would not pay the Eventuri price either.

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  • heinzboehmer
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    Originally posted by Teemmy View Post
    Do you know other people who have tried this sound generator? Definitely curious. Thanks!
    Originally posted by jayjaya29 View Post
    I went to his instagram which said it was available via a link his bio, but that didnt go anywhere useful. I search some more of his posts and stories but didn't really get anywhere. I didn't send him a PM, but hes based in Europe.

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  • 9kracing
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    Originally posted by Teemmy View Post
    im also in CA trying to figure out what to do

    Move?

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