Turner CSL style airbox, pros and cons?

[Obioban]

A large part of this is probably the reduced sound deadening on the CSL.

Edit: ah plus headers etc if you have a US spec car.


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And cams.

[JokerElite]

For what its worth, I've had my TMS V2 CSL Airbox installed for over a year and a half with no issues. Build quality is good, just not a fan of the trumpet design, but I understand why its designed the way that it is. Cant go wrong if you're on a budget imo

Curious if you did anything else to complement the airbox? Tune, headers, etc.?

[Acarv_426]

For what its worth, I've had my TMS V2 CSL Airbox installed for over a year and a half with no issues. Build quality is good, just not a fan of the trumpet design, but I understand why its designed the way that it is. Cant go wrong if you're on a budget imo

[karter16]

Having been in a real CSL and ripping on it, I can tell you the OE CSL setup sounds nuts on an actual CSL. Hearing the OE box on a standard car is much much different.

A large part of this is probably the reduced sound deadening on the CSL.

Edit: ah plus headers etc if you have a US spec car.


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[Sharocks]

IMHO, the Turner box is good if you're trying to budget this.

That being said, Karbonius boxes have their own issues very much like EVERY CSL airbox rep has had.

So is that worth it? Completely up to you.

Having been in a real CSL and ripping on it, I can tell you the OE CSL setup sounds nuts on an actual CSL. Hearing the OE box on a standard car is much much different.

[OldRanger]

... Also wondering if the juice is worth the squeeze.

Installing a Turner CSL Style box with headers and high flow catalysts with all the other things plus tuning is a $6K project. It has not improved my track times, but it looks and sounds cool.

My only concern with the Turner product is that there are gaps between the carbon intake and the edges of the filter that allow a minor amount of unfiltered air to flow through the engine. Furthermore, the pins that hold the two intake pieces together on the bottom are not durable. I have one that is broken already, and this is important to keep the filter firmly in place. Had I been involved in designing the product I would have asked for more clearance between the intake and the strut tower, and that doesn't seem like a big ask.

[EthanolTurbo]

Yea TBH I'm kind of shying away from it for the reasons you guys said. I wonder if the savings are worth the unknowns... Also wondering if the juice is worth the squeeze. Air box, tune, plus headers and cats to make it really worth it, that's a decent chunk of change that I should rightfully be spending on dialing in other aspects of the car. Anyone in the LA area with an air box who would be willing to take me for a spin?

I can take you for a ride when my car is back up.

[jdamore44]

Ive been debating on whether to get CSL Box or the Stock Carbon Box. I already have eventuri intake which makes some great noise, but i havent sat in a car with a CSL carbon box.
With the Karbonious Stock carbon box and eventuri intake i may get close the sound of a CSL box, but less headaches with passing smog, since only thing it would fail is visual and easier to swap if needed.

This is where I'm at. The headacheless idea of the Stock Carbon Box is tempting. I like the idea of running MAF for road trips.

[Nate047]

Ive been debating on whether to get CSL Box or the Stock Carbon Box. I already have eventuri intake which makes some great noise, but i havent sat in a car with a CSL carbon box.
With the Karbonious Stock carbon box and eventuri intake i may get close the sound of a CSL box, but less headaches with passing smog, since only thing it would fail is visual and easier to swap if needed.

Definitely a decent option and cheaper overall.

I really want to do an "Intake Shootout" video. It's hard to capture the sound though. Like it's hard to really translate to the viewer how it sounds through a TV/laptop/phone.

[Deen HK]

My car came with a turner box on it, It’s not a karb box but I’m pleased with it. Sounds good, and seems like it’s built well.

Obviously ECS sucks and I didn’t have to deal with the bite of purchasing and getting the adjacent install components; but I have no complaints with it.

[elrichmeister]

Yea TBH I'm kind of shying away from it for the reasons you guys said. I wonder if the savings are worth the unknowns... Also wondering if the juice is worth the squeeze. Air box, tune, plus headers and cats to make it really worth it, that's a decent chunk of change that I should rightfully be spending on dialing in other aspects of the car. Anyone in the LA area with an air box who would be willing to take me for a spin?

Ive been debating on whether to get CSL Box or the Stock Carbon Box. I already have eventuri intake which makes some great noise, but i havent sat in a car with a CSL carbon box.
With the Karbonious Stock carbon box and eventuri intake i may get close the sound of a CSL box, but less headaches with passing smog, since only thing it would fail is visual and easier to swap if needed.

[siamkazi]

Yea TBH I'm kind of shying away from it for the reasons you guys said. I wonder if the savings are worth the unknowns... Also wondering if the juice is worth the squeeze. Air box, tune, plus headers and cats to make it really worth it, that's a decent chunk of change that I should rightfully be spending on dialing in other aspects of the car. Anyone in the LA area with an air box who would be willing to take me for a spin?

I'm down, once I get my driveshaft center support replaced

[davidinnyc]

I've shipped all my non-CARB compliant stuff to my mother-in-law in Indiana and give her labels to slap on and hand right back to the delivery driver.

I've already gone through one Karbonius install (on an SMG no less) with all the gizmos and gadgets needed. As Tbonem3 mentioned above, the fit and finish of the Karb box is really fantastic and I borrowed Casa de Mesa's suggestion on securing black bolts to finish the look. I actually held a Turner box in my hands when I looked at buying one locally that was new in box and can't say anything negative about the construction. You don't get the option to attach the snorkel (which is Tbonem3's favorite accessory) with the Turner box. I have been building an attachment that runs from the snorkel to the fog light cavity on stock bumpers which I should have ready to share with everyone in a month or so.

David

[CrisSilberGrau]

It's made in china. But its shape/design does seem to produce a tick more power on the dynos I've seen. I just couldn't trust it. The karbonius' fit and finish is so impressive - you feel like you really got something worth $2xxx

This is true, if the price is a serious savings I'd only consider it then. If I could do it again id wait another year and get the Karbonious race.

[Nate047]

Yea TBH I'm kind of shying away from it for the reasons you guys said. I wonder if the savings are worth the unknowns... Also wondering if the juice is worth the squeeze. Air box, tune, plus headers and cats to make it really worth it, that's a decent chunk of change that I should rightfully be spending on dialing in other aspects of the car. Anyone in the LA area with an air box who would be willing to take me for a spin?