SMG to 6MT Conversion

[ejendow]

I found a couple from junk yards. Check car-part.com and call around. I will be selling one of the switches I found very soon, so if you do not find one be on the lookout for my post.

what part did you use in their lookup system to find the switch?

[gheorghe]

just called local dealer regarding this "700" switch... nothing till maybe JUNE lol.
Has anyone found anything in North America??

I found a couple from junk yards. Check car-part.com and call around. I will be selling one of the switches I found very soon, so if you do not find one be on the lookout for my post.

[pawelgawel]

just called local dealer regarding this "700" switch... nothing till maybe JUNE lol.
Has anyone found anything in North America??

[gheorghe]

I decided this morning on my walk that I'm actually just going to convert that car today after all. (A friend was going to buy it as SMG, but he's dragging his feet so screw it, I have the parts.) Has anyone who has done this job recently have a recommendation on a better technique for opening up the hole? Last time I used an angle grinder and ended up looking like someone put cigarettes out in my armpits. It was a mess... I figure maybe someone has come up with a quicker/simpler method in the last few years? (I guess I'm not wholly opposed to the hole saw method but that seems incomplete, plus wouldn't it be kind of impossible to mount and rivet the bracket in back?)

Yup, as stated above, definitely a 3.25" hole saw. Fast, easy and clean.

[SandeepM3]

A 3 1/4 inch hole saw. The actuator has to be out of the way for the pilot drill to have room. So I have not actually completed this yet lol.

[Dave]

Ha, nice to know I'm not the only one with such an issue (I had a pump die while the car was in reverse). You'll be surprised at how easily you can pop it out of gear just by reaching up in there. Same as how you can shift gears in a 6MT with the car off without clutching in.

I decided this morning on my walk that I'm actually just going to convert that car today after all. (A friend was going to buy it as SMG, but he's dragging his feet so screw it, I have the parts.) Has anyone who has done this job recently have a recommendation on a better technique for opening up the hole? Last time I used an angle grinder and ended up looking like someone put cigarettes out in my armpits. It was a mess... I figure maybe someone has come up with a quicker/simpler method in the last few years? (I guess I'm not wholly opposed to the hole saw method but that seems incomplete, plus wouldn't it be kind of impossible to mount and rivet the bracket in back?)

[SandeepM3]

Amazing! I will give that a try. I should have enough room to reach the selector rod. thank you gents

[George Hill]

Just realized I didn't put the car in neutral and the pump is already out. I hope I can get to those driveshaft bolts.🤦♂️

You don't need to remove anything, you can shift it into neutral with the actuator installed, just pry it back (or forwards) into the neutral gate.

[heinzboehmer]

Yeah just put something through the hole in the selector rod joint and pull/push it into neutral

[sapote]

Hoping someone can confirm for me whether this will work. But Rather then hooking everything back up. Could I remove the SMG slave cylinder and install the clutch pedal with manual cylinder. Then bleed the system with a power bleeder. Then be able to release the clutch to spin the driveshaft with the clutch pedal?

Pedal + master + slave? Sure this will release the clutch disk. But if you just want to spin the drive shaft, then disconnect the SMG gear actuator (tail shift rod), then push or pull the tranny shift rod into neutral, and I think this is easier than all the things you proposed. Maybe more work to get near the SMG actuator?

Other option: connect your new master output pipe to the stock SMG slave input port instead. Then use the pedal to disengage the clutch.

[SandeepM3]

Hoping someone can confirm for me whether this will work. But Rather then hooking everything back up. Could I remove the SMG slave cylinder and install the clutch pedal with manual cylinder. Then bleed the system with a power bleeder. Then be able to release the clutch to spin the driveshaft with the clutch pedal?

[SandeepM3]

Just realized I didn't put the car in neutral and the pump is already out. I hope I can get to those driveshaft bolts.🤦♂️

[George Hill]

No, the Z3m coding lets you eliminate the gear recognition sensor and wire the clutch switch directly to the dme. The dme still expects the signal to be pulled high (the non-M pulls it low).

Ah, copy. dang.

[terra]

No, the Z3m coding lets you eliminate the gear recognition sensor and wire the clutch switch directly to the dme. The dme still expects the signal to be pulled high (the non-M pulls it low).

[George Hill]

terra I thought I recalled awhile back you or someone else mentioned coding the DME as if it was a Z3M and then not using a GPS, that would allow the non-m switch to work? Is that a possibility or am I completing off?