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    #16
    Sam, you got it correct. Needle valve is super common on a non remote setup. I've got a nitrogen setup at the house if you don't have access to one.


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      #17
      Originally posted by fattycharged View Post
      Sam, you got it correct. Needle valve is super common on a non remote setup. I've got a nitrogen setup at the house if you don't have access to one.


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      Awesome, if I have any trouble with my aircooled friends setup I'm borrowing. I'll setup something with you
      Build Thread:
      https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...-new-pb-at-msr

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        #18
        Nitrogen pressure should not really be used as a tuning tool. In a monotube setup like that with no base valve, you probably need to run 150-250psi depending on valving. If you want to play around with it, try to machine the hole for a schrader valve and fill it with a bicycle shock pump.

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          #19
          Originally posted by cobra View Post
          Nitrogen pressure should not really be used as a tuning tool. In a monotube setup like that with no base valve, you probably need to run 150-250psi depending on valving. If you want to play around with it, try to machine the hole for a schrader valve and fill it with a bicycle shock pump.

          Originally posted by samthejam View Post
          A lot of remote reservoir shocks will give the user a nitrogen fill port (schrader) for servicing, if the reservoirs have to be disconnected. Some use it for tuning but it's intended purpose is for service.
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          Originally posted by samthejam View Post
          Also targets to aim for he said

          "AST . They run they kind of high, too high if you ask me. But 150psi front..."
          Good to know it can go up to 250, I'm hoping I can get a reading from the other damper.

          My nuclear plan is if something happens to the self healing membrane is to take it to my dad and figure out to add a Schrader with his machine shop tools.

          Again mainly trying to refill it to by me some time while I save up for something else, since the shock doesn't look majorly damaged just seems like it is leaking the nitrogen very slowly. Ideally new MCS 1 ways or a set of used 2 ways.

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          Build Thread:
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            #20
            The Nitrogen filling went well, the shock was only at 60 psi. I filled it to 150psi, and it needed about a 100lbs of force to begin opening the shock on my scale. I didn't want to poke the other "good" shock as it was kindve a fiddly affair and I just didn't want to create more problems as myself.

            So my only way to match it was using the gas force. I had both out of the car anyways so this was easy enough. The "good" shock was 50-55lbs to open. So I just kept bleeding off the nitrogen until I was able to get it within 5-10lbs of the "good shock". Which ended up being 55-60lbs of force for the damper to move. I used a corner weight scale t to measure the gas force for all of this.

            Stole the idea from FCM


            Thank You @fattycharged ​for the nitrogen tank, regulator and lines
            Build Thread:
            https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...-new-pb-at-msr

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              #21
              There is a good chance if you had the nitrogen leak out, it will leak out again especially after being poked. Just a heads up!
              Several companies have moved to a screw with an o-ring instead, but that requires an even more specialized tool. Or a schrader valve which is the easiest.

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