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    #16
    It's a lot more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow.

    Jesse
    Old, not obsolete.

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      #17
      Originally posted by D-O View Post
      It's a lot more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow.

      Jesse
      That is what people in Miatas continuously tell themselves. 🤣

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        #18
        The Miata route is very enticing, but another option to consider is racing karts. I am not talking about the snail like 4 stroke stuff you find at amusement parks, I mean full on 2-stroke race karts. If there is a kart track near you then you should check it out.

        Jesse
        Old, not obsolete.

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          #19
          Compared to newer sports cars I think a well-modded N/A E46 M3 is just right for enjoying on the street. Still fast enough to get you in trouble, but not too quick where you're deep in the triple digits with two flicks of a PDK/DCT paddle. I have old Pilot Super Sport street tires that are easy to slide around, and I can wring it out in 2nd and 3rd to listen to the airbox without the threat of severe jail time. The steering has lots of feedback, and the brakes just feel perfect. The car is super rewarding to drive.

          I wouldn't want anything slower personally.
          Last edited by Jickel180; 06-10-2020, 02:49 PM.

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            #20
            Unless being disciplined in addressing my needs vs my wants I would be divorced and sleeping in a fully tricked mint condition e46 m3.
            I appreciate the premise of your post that we are extremely unlikely to approach the limits of the stock M3 on city streets so why endeavor to extend the limits out further.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Jickel180 View Post
              The steering has lots of feedback, .
              Im going to guess you have the zhp steering rack? Or something even faster? My oem rack is dead at the center

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                #22
                I'm in the south shore of Boston so a shit ton of traffic all the time. I can't use the damn thing so I just drive the M5 lol
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by yhp2009 View Post

                  Im going to guess you have the zhp steering rack? Or something even faster? My oem rack is dead at the center
                  Sounds like you have some worn out bushings somewhere.

                  2005 IR/IR M3 Coupe
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Obioban View Post

                    Sounds like you have some worn out bushings somewhere.
                    Hmm I was always led to believe that oem rack was crap by design? I guess I should check the bushings

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by yhp2009 View Post

                      Hmm I was always led to believe that oem rack was crap by design? I guess I should check the bushings
                      That rubber joint likes to get sloppy.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by pawa_k2001 View Post

                        That is what people in Miatas continuously tell themselves. 🤣
                        They're onto something, you know.
                        '03.5 M3 SMG Coupe - Jet Black / Black

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by yhp2009 View Post

                          Hmm I was always led to believe that oem rack was crap by design? I guess I should check the bushings
                          Hahaha I had the same problem, turns out my steering guibo was dead lol.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Johnvu View Post

                            Hahaha I had the same problem, turns out my steering guibo was dead lol.
                            Just purchased a new steering coupler joint p/n 32301094703 for only $70 and diy looks amazingly simple. Actually got me anticipating

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by D-O View Post
                              It's a lot more fun to drive a fast car fast, than a fast car slow.

                              Jesse
                              Ftfy

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by yhp2009 View Post

                                Im going to guess you have the zhp steering rack? Or something even faster? My oem rack is dead at the center
                                Actually I'm still on the non-ZCP rack, but I've replaced my steering guibo a while back. It'll fix your on-center feel and make a huge improvement. One of my biggest complaints about this car is how slow the steering rack ratio is, but It's not lacking in feel. I'll switch to a yellow tag rack eventually.

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