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  • jvit27
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    Get a TCK SA kit with 350/500 springs. Will ride better than anything mentioned.

    Originally posted by EthanolTurbo View Post
    I would recommend getting Ohlins, I have them on my 335i and just got Koni Yellow/Eibach on my E46 M3. It's a good setup but I keep imagining how the Ohlins would be on the E46.
    Maybe don't recommend something you haven't even tried, especially when it contradicts exactly what the OP said in the first post..?

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  • Albino09
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    Originally posted by WoGGo View Post
    So if replacing OE suspension with the Koni Sport (Yellow), would all the OE hardware still be applicable?

    Anything from this (rear shock) FCP Euro list not necessary any more, or some thing you would upgrade/do differently?

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    Unless you think your bolts are in bad shape, you can probably buy the RSM Meyle HD kit (includes reinforcement plates I believe) they have and get everything you need. I would recommend ordering new bump stops, and wish I had ordered them when I did my suspension. Even the latest E46 has 14-yr old foam at this point, so they're all shot. I put in Koni's with their Meyle kit and had no issues with install, the rears are especially easy on these cars. The only place you can upgrade is a different RSM such as the Rogue mounts which allow for shock removal without interior disassembly, or a monoball mount which some folks have given positive reviews of.

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  • WoGGo
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    So if replacing OE suspension with the Koni Sport (Yellow), would all the OE hardware still be applicable?

    Anything from this (rear shock) FCP Euro list not necessary any more, or some thing you would upgrade/do differently?

    Click image for larger version  Name:	Rear Shock.JPG Views:	0 Size:	35.0 KB ID:	41381

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  • 911Fiddler
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  • 911Fiddler
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    Originally posted by T.J. View Post

    Do you have the original receipt? You could try Bilstein’s lifetime warranty. I would not say the dampers are scrap, you could do the following, then blast and powder coat https://youtu.be/bNGd4eBoKtk
    Been into that...
    -there is no lifetime warranty, it’s turned out to be a myth, which was different to what I originally understood.
    -even though I’d discussed my faults directly with Bilstein UK within the warranty period by the time I’d uncovered the mess I was outside.
    -Bilstein UK made a bad job if one rebuild some time back, with different left to right calibration of the adjuster wheel, so no way would I pay them for a rebuild.

    They have a basic quality problem. Inadequate material choice and probably design. It’s been obvious for a long time. I had less usage out if mine than should reasonably be expected. 30k miles.

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  • Obioban
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    Originally posted by T.J. View Post

    Do you have the original receipt? You could try Bilstein’s lifetime warranty. I would not say the dampers are scrap, you could do the following, then blast and powder coat https://youtu.be/bNGd4eBoKtk
    Their warranty department is currently closed for Covid.
    i have a friend trying to swap out 2 campers that failed with ~30,000 miles on them and he is SOL.

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  • T.J.
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    Originally posted by 911Fiddler View Post

    Yes. Worst of it is the loss of chrome on the damper capsule. I can blast off the sliders and put POR-15 on but those dampers are scrap.
    So sad, given their performance was so good, albeit short lived.
    Do you have the original receipt? You could try Bilstein’s lifetime warranty. I would not say the dampers are scrap, you could do the following, then blast and powder coat https://youtu.be/bNGd4eBoKtk

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  • 911Fiddler
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    Originally posted by Icecream View Post

    You sure those aren't parts of the titanic? Wonder why they can just powder coat them or something.
    Agree though, it's all about the shocks.
    Yes. Worst of it is the loss of chrome on the damper capsule. I can blast off the sliders and put POR-15 on but those dampers are scrap.
    So sad, given their performance was so good, albeit short lived.

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  • Icecream
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    Originally posted by 911Fiddler View Post
    Such a variety of opinions on this one & different to my experiences. (...its all about the shocks, not the coils, tried fresh OE Sachs, then hated the Koni, then found the PSS10 totally superb)
    So its PSS10, but they need corrosion protection at installation, especially greasing up the rear damping adjusters. Photo of mine after 3 winters.
    You sure those aren't parts of the titanic? Wonder why they can just powder coat them or something.
    Agree though, it's all about the shocks.

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  • old///MFanatic
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    Originally posted by 911Fiddler View Post
    So its PSS10, but they need corrosion protection at installation, especially greasing up the rear damping adjusters. Photo of mine after 3 winters.
    😱 Wow I cant imagine what your undercarriage must look like. Looks like your suspension was parked in a brine pool. Threads look like they held up ok.
    My PSS9s look almost new after 7 plus years. But I live at the beach.

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  • Obioban
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    Originally posted by WoGGo View Post

    Perhaps, but you've stated 1/4 for the fronts, which would translate to 2 clicks I guess, and 1-3/8 for the rears, which I assume is 1 & 3/8's... how can that be Koni speak?
    Koni rebound adjuster has no clicks.

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  • T.J.
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    Originally posted by 911Fiddler View Post
    Such a variety of opinions on this one & different to my experiences. (...its all about the shocks, not the coils, tried fresh OE Sachs, then hated the Koni, then found the PSS10 totally superb)
    So its PSS10, but they need corrosion protection at installation, especially greasing up the rear damping adjusters. Photo of mine after 3 winters.
    The coating is the weak link on these. They don’t even hold up to rain without losing their luster.

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  • r4dr
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    Originally posted by WoGGo View Post

    Perhaps, but you've stated 1/4 for the fronts, which would translate to 2 clicks I guess, and 1-3/8 for the rears, which I assume is 1 & 3/8's... how can that be Koni speak?
    1-3/8 or 11/8 or 11 notches. It’s just fractions...

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  • 911Fiddler
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    Such a variety of opinions on this one & different to my experiences. (...its all about the shocks, not the coils, tried fresh OE Sachs, then hated the Koni, then found the PSS10 totally superb)
    So its PSS10, but they need corrosion protection at installation, especially greasing up the rear damping adjusters. Photo of mine after 3 winters.
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  • WoGGo
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    Originally posted by Obioban View Post
    I think Koni talking about turns in eights because their knob has 8 indicators on it-- so 3/8 means turn it 3 koni knob indicators.]
    Perhaps, but you've stated 1/4 for the fronts, which would translate to 2 clicks I guess, and 1-3/8 for the rears, which I assume is 1 & 3/8's... how can that be Koni speak?

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