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  • ac427
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    Originally posted by ATB88 View Post
    ^^ Indeed. Sorry ac247, I don't know if you saw, but I edited my response on the last page a couple of minutes after posting it -- the one that was in the other picture (the longer one) was the manual one, and this is the SMG one.
    ​No worries, It's all good information. I just happened to have a spare pipe and the engine bay photo on my phone. So i thought i would post them.



    Originally posted by bmwfnatic View Post
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    Do you have a part number for the pipe in the pic below. I cannot find anythiny like it in RealOEM.
    Last edited by ac427; 10-30-2024, 07:54 AM.

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  • ATB88
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    Originally posted by bmwfnatic View Post

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    SMG on the left, manual on the right, pictured how they are installed in the car, if the car has been converted you can definitely just install the manual piece and get rid of the SMG 3 part design.
    On the other hand, the SMG part is ~$45 and the 6MT part is ~$150, so I'd stick with the SMG part unless I was being really picky about the conversion being "perfect"

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  • Slideways
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    Originally posted by bmwfnatic View Post

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    SMG on the left, manual on the right, pictured how they are installed in the car, if the car has been converted you can definitely just install the manual piece and get rid of the SMG 3 part design.
    True, but those SMG to manual owners will have to pay three times more to get the manual version over keeping the SMG version. That little check valve must not be cheap lol

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  • bmwfnatic
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    Originally posted by Slideways View Post

    That is the SMG version and won't work on the manual; however, if your car was converted to manual and the installer kept SMG version, then you will need the SMG version.
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    SMG on the left, manual on the right, pictured how they are installed in the car, if the car has been converted you can definitely just install the manual piece and get rid of the SMG 3 part design.

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  • ATB88
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    ^^ Indeed. Sorry ac247, I don't know if you saw, but I edited my response on the last page a couple of minutes after posting it -- the one that was in the other picture (the longer one) was the manual one, and this is the SMG one.

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  • Slideways
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    Originally posted by ac427 View Post

    Thank you. It is a manual.

    Here is a pic of the pipe for scale:



    Is the 4 prong connector on the end a different type of NORMA connector?
    That is the SMG version and won't work on the manual; however, if your car was converted to manual and the installer kept SMG version, then you will need the SMG version.

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  • ac427
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    Originally posted by bmwfnatic View Post

    Yeah, judging from this you have a manual. The SMG uses another design with a hard pipe and multiple hoses to go around the SMG pump.
    Thank you. It is a manual.

    Here is a pic of the pipe for scale:



    Is the 4 prong connector on the end a different type of NORMA connector?
    Last edited by ac427; 10-30-2024, 06:51 AM.

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  • bmwfnatic
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    Originally posted by ac427 View Post

    Apologies. I was looking at the pic the wrong way. Is that the same short pipe in my photo below?

    Yeah, judging from this you have a manual. The SMG uses another design with a hard pipe and multiple hoses to go around the SMG pump.

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  • ac427
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    Originally posted by bmwfnatic View Post

    Well, I think the point of it is that it is supposed to be “under water” aka under the oil level, hence the dipstick tube is used for this on the M54. So that whatever is draining through it is not fighting against possible positive crankcase pressure.
    Apologies. I was looking at the pic the wrong way. Is that the same short pipe in my photo below?

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  • bmwfnatic
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    Originally posted by ac427 View Post

    Thanks for the info. Where does the other end of that pipe go to?
    Well, I think the point of it is that it is supposed to be “under water” aka under the oil level, hence the dipstick tube is used for this on the M54. So that whatever is draining through it is not fighting against possible positive crankcase pressure.

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  • ac427
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    Originally posted by bmwfnatic View Post

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    There is the bung, it has a few inches of small pipe attached to the bottom of it, you can screw it out and clean it out to make sure it's not blocked.
    There's a 16x12x1.5mm aluminium crush washer below it (not sold separately but just use a generic one) and they seem to be torqued to around 18nm from factory.

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    Thanks for the info. Where does the other end of that pipe go to?

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  • bmwfnatic
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    Originally posted by y2k_o__o View Post
    Do you have any picture of the male bung in the oil pan? I will be replacing all those hoses in X'mas time
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    There is the bung, it has a few inches of small pipe attached to the bottom of it, you can screw it out and clean it out to make sure it's not blocked.
    There's a 16x12x1.5mm aluminium crush washer below it (not sold separately but just use a generic one) and they seem to be torqued to around 18nm from factory.

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    Last edited by bmwfnatic; 10-30-2024, 02:13 AM.

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  • ethan
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    Originally posted by y2k_o__o View Post

    Yes it does. The check valve allows the oil return to oil pan, but doesn't allow the air being sucked during vacuum.
    Did you check this on the new factory tube you just bought? I've asserted this for a while, but want someone else who has known-good OE hardware to confirm it since I made my own hose.

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  • y2k_o__o
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    Originally posted by ac427 View Post

    Thanks Mate. Is there a check valve in the line?
    Yes it does. The check valve allows the oil return to oil pan, but doesn't allow the air being sucked during vacuum.

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  • y2k_o__o
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    Originally posted by bmwfnatic View Post
    There’s no connection to the dipstick, there’s a male bung threaded into the oil pan.
    My bad, I have never taken this apart in the past when I clean the throttle body, so I assumed that REALOEM has provided a correct diagram.

    Do you have any picture of the male bung in the oil pan? I will be replacing all those hoses in X'mas time

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