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    Poll: Rear Trailing Arm Mount Reinforcement

    How many of you have reinforced the rear trailing arm 3 bolt mounting area? I wasn’t aware of this weakness when I was doing my subframe reinforcement several years ago. However, now that I have monoball RTABs and moving towards a stiffer rear spring setup, I’m wondering if I should address this.

    If you have done this what solution did you use? I’ve seen people just weld the seam around that area, but have also see thick plates similar to the subframe plates.
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    I have done this during my reinforcement. It’s easy to wire wheel it down, weld a seam in a couple different spots and properly cover it back up. Just made sure you get all the seam sealer out of the joining points first or you’ll have some shitty welds.

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      #3
      In 16 years, I've seen this failure happening twice. Monoball RTABs should decrease the load on the pocket. I wouldn't sweat it.

      IMO this reinforcement is only as common as it is because it is a legit issue on the e36.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Obioban View Post
        IMO this reinforcement is only as common as it is because it is a legit issue on the e36.
        And of course that infamous vid of the failure on track.

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          #5
          Originally posted by ethan View Post

          And of course that infamous vid of the failure on track.
          That is one of the two times I've seen this fail :P

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            #6
            Thanks for the feedback. I’ll just continue to monitor the area and address if it starts to show sign of fatigue.
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              #7
              As others have said, It's a major issue on the E36 chassis however, the design for the E46 chassis is very different and doesn't need any plates despite what some companies say/sell.

              I suspect braking torque is the biggest contributor to popping spot welds. The inner most bolt sits beyond any spot welds so it can pry on them and concentrate stress on their edge.

              I've just stitch welded that edge as well as the back and front of the straight edges when I have performed reinforcements. Dug up an old pic from a 325ci I did a while back.

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                #8
                I've seen a couple now starting to separate, nothing huge and small enough most people wouldn't notice it. But now that I've seen it it happen the pockets always get inspected.

                And when I do a RACP reinforcement the pockets get stitch welded as part of that service.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Obioban View Post

                  That is one of the two times I've seen this fail :P
                  Twice is enough for me, especially when the failure mode is possibly a huge catapulting barrel roll. I'd rather just do a quick stitch weld and never think about it again.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Apex_80 View Post

                    Twice is enough for me, especially when the failure mode is possibly a huge catapulting barrel roll. I'd rather just do a quick stitch weld and never think about it again.
                    Link to video?


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                      #11
                      Originally posted by DESMDR3 View Post

                      Link to video?


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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ZHPizza View Post
                        Thx but the link in that thread seems broken I will have to take your word for it lol


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                          #13
                          Originally posted by DESMDR3 View Post

                          Thx but the link in that thread seems broken I will have to take your word for it lol


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                          So it is! Here's the video

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ZHPizza View Post
                            So it is! Here's the video

                            https://youtu.be/J4zPECASIrs
                            Ouch thankfully the cage did its job


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