Header brands and proven dynos

[Obioban]

LOL !

The headers were produced by VAC. He has something against the company but can’t come up with a solid enough reason to say why other than he visited their facility and didn’t like what he saw.

Megan headers are Chinese made and extremely cost efficient. Meanwhile Hassan raves about them and so do a lot of other people who install them.

VAC does not produce any headers. I have tons of very concrete reasons I dislike VAC, that I’ve detailed many times.

Slave labor is undeniably good for “cost efficiency”.

[Jimbo's M]

Lol. "xenophobic throw away" is, by your definition, not wanting to buy products from a country where slave labor is used on a massive (and government sanctioned) scale?

I know many don't care, but I avoid buying from the CCP like the plague, and that's just one of the reasons. It can be very challenging, but I'll spend hours online to buy American goods, if not, anywhere but China. Just trashing our economy even more than it already is.

[DropTopKingM3]

You know a part isn't that bad when the best Ian can come up with for criticism is a logical fallacy that the company is "shitty" and a xenophobic throw away about where they're made.

Good enough for me.

You must have forgot the time you ran JVTs. Your car with those headers with the og scorza was the best your car ever sounded.

LOL !

The headers were produced by VAC. He has something against the company but can’t come up with a solid enough reason to say why other than he visited their facility and didn’t like what he saw.

Megan headers are Chinese made and extremely cost efficient. Meanwhile Hassan raves about them and so do a lot of other people who install them.

[Obioban]

Was this the owner of the company that did that? Or was it an employee? Regardless, it is pretty shitty but it can be difficult to control every action your employees make. It would make a difference if it wasn't the owner who did that...

I have a Fabspeed section 1 with cats and the welds are far superior to SS. I will have to go back and look at my paperwork, but I'm nearly positive this section 1 (except the HJC cats) was USA made. They did did give me a certificate of authenticity lol which I thought was kind of funny! But the packaging overall was also far superior to that of SS.

Owner.

I wouldn't be surprised if the section 1 is made in the USA-- much less labor intensive than headers.

[Obioban]

You know a part isn't that bad when the best Ian can come up with for criticism is a logical fallacy that the company is "shitty" and a xenophobic throw away about where they're made.

Good enough for me.

You must have forgot the time you ran JVTs. Your car with those headers with the og scorza was the best your car ever sounded.

Lol. "xenophobic throw away" is, by your definition, not wanting to buy products from a country where slave labor is used on a massive (and government sanctioned) scale?

An intellectual property rights aren't enforced to any degree, so things like copying a header design doesn't even enter the conversation?

So weird that they're cheap. How do they do it.

And, yes, the company is shitty. Run by shitty people, making knockoff products.

[DropTopKingM3]

Weren’t fabspeed made by VAC at some point? I’ve heard them in person and they sounded great. They don’t have that hint of rasp that’s on the oe euro headers.

[Casa de Mesa]

Fab speed are Chinese made, and the company is super shitty. When they gave me a tour of their facility, they showed off by cold start free revving customer cars.

Their parts are, as you say, copies. Not dyno developed, just make it the same pattern and call it good. I'd rather have OE Euro.

Was this the owner of the company that did that? Or was it an employee? Regardless, it is pretty shitty but it can be difficult to control every action your employees make. It would make a difference if it wasn't the owner who did that...

I have a Fabspeed section 1 with cats and the welds are far superior to SS. I will have to go back and look at my paperwork, but I'm nearly positive this section 1 (except the HJC cats) was USA made. They did did give me a certificate of authenticity lol which I thought was kind of funny! But the packaging overall was also far superior to that of SS.

[maw1124]

Even better... anyone have experience with the midpipes?

maw

[Tbonem3]

Maybe I'm not thinking of what you're thinking of, but the "Schmiedmann" branded exhaust parts I saw recently look exactly like supersprint parts (as in, made by SS). The "kirkland" parts if you will.

[maw1124]

Schmiedmann

Looking at them now… has anyone used their midpipes? I’m not looking for MORE sound (headers) but could be talked into deeper tone and less rasp. Thoughts?

maw

[Tbonem3]

You know a part isn't that bad when the best Ian can come up with for criticism is a logical fallacy that the company is "shitty" and a xenophobic throw away about where they're made.

Good enough for me.

You must have forgot the time you ran JVTs. Your car with those headers with the og scorza was the best your car ever sounded.

[Obioban]

Fab speed are Chinese made, and the company is super shitty. When they gave me a tour of their facility, they showed off by cold start free revving customer cars.

Their parts are, as you say, copies. Not dyno developed, just make it the same pattern and call it good. I'd rather have OE Euro.

[Tbonem3]

Appreciate the response. I definitely noticed the difference in pitch in some videos. After I shop around for some discounts I can probably get them for cheaper than a new set of OE Euros. No brainer I guess?

Absolutely!

And I love euro headers. Can't go wrong with either.

[Sharocks]

The welds on Fabspeed products look quality at least.

All that money spent on SSV1's and they look MIG welded hahaha

[RoyalFlushness]

Fabspeeds are great. They make more power than Euro/CSL. Com'on Ian. You know euro and csl guys would upgrade to SS long tube, of which Fabspeed's are the best replica.

Massive torque. I still have cats in sect 1, and NO TUNE, and my steelgrey pulls so hard I can't believe it. That's a full weighted car with heavy stock wheels. Euros never felt that way to me. Even the ssv1s don't feel any better than fabspeeds (though a different car, my silvergrey).

And the sound is very muscular and deep. Euros are a little zingy-er, buzzier, but with a better motorsport sound. A little more of that hollow wail that I actually like more. But fabspeed and other longtubes make a sound more appreciated by people (less raspy, a little smoother)

Appreciate the response. I definitely noticed the difference in pitch in some videos. After I shop around for some discounts I can probably get them for cheaper than a new set of OE Euros. No brainer I guess?