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  • Good
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    Originally posted by Tbonem3 View Post
    Think it comes down to tire choice, both size and brand. So PS4S are chunky, but you fit a 245 on the 9.5" and with enough neg camber, you don't need to mod your fenders. But if you wanted to fit the common 265 tire, esp with chunky PS4S, you might have an issue...
    These are pretty aggressive wheel specs. 10x18 + 11x18 ET21.5.

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  • Tbonem3
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    Think it comes down to tire choice, both size and brand. So PS4S are chunky, but you fit a 245 on the 9.5" and with enough neg camber, you don't need to mod your fenders. But if you wanted to fit the common 265 tire, esp with chunky PS4S, you might have an issue...

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  • Good
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    Originally posted by Casa de Mesa View Post

    I completely read right past that (fender adjustment necessary) and I've been on that page probably 20 times. I think I get the Assclown of the Year award.

    Thanks for this. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how they squeezed huge wheels under these cars. I see it now.
    So everybody who participated in the GB is pulling they're fenders? I'm a bit confused why this was the only wheel specifications that were available to purchase through this GB. I can't imagine everybody pulling they're fenders just to fit some wheels.

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  • Casa de Mesa
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    Originally posted by Good View Post
    If you look closely at all Schirmer builds, the fenders have been pulled. I struggled to fit my 9.5/10.5 ET22 E88's on my M3, I have no idea how people fit these Schirmer spec wheels without fender modifications.


    EDIT: Schirmer states on they're website: "Fender adjustments will be necessary."
    The Schirmer further development of the classic racing rim BBS E88 for BMW E90 E92 F80 F82 F87 M2 M3 M4! Available in 18 inch in 3-piece drop center version only. The rim stars are made from a high-strength aluminum forging blank. For optimal weight, the spokes are back milled to the classic design and then CNC drilled


    So yes, you will 100% need to modify your fenders to fit these wheel specs.
    I completely read right past that (fender adjustment necessary) and I've been on that page probably 20 times. I think I get the Assclown of the Year award.

    Thanks for this. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how they squeezed huge wheels under these cars. I see it now.

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  • Good
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    Originally posted by Casa de Mesa View Post
    Does anyone know why the Schirmer spec E88s require spacers?

    From THIS page:


    I know the E88s are typically used for track-prepped cars, but even then, this seems like a really aggressive fitment without spacers. Are they running widened fenders?

    For reference, my current wheel setup for a staggered setup is pretty ideal (for me) - max size within reason and no rubbing or rolling.

    For comparison:
    Current F: 18x9.5" ET35 || Schirmer F: 18x10" ET 21.5
    Current R: 18x10" ET25 || Schirmer R: 18x10.5" ET 15.5

    In the Schirmer setup without spacers and compared to my current wheels, the fronts poke out an additional 0.78" and 0.62" in the rear. I'm 100% certain these will not fit with out aggressive fender/quarter panel rolling.


    With some of the shots across the bow on this thread, this might sound like a loaded question but I'm asking from a buyer's vantage point.


    If you look closely at all Schirmer builds, the fenders have been pulled. I struggled to fit my 9.5/10.5 ET22 E88's on my M3, I have no idea how people fit these Schirmer spec wheels without fender modifications.


    EDIT: Schirmer states on they're website: "Fender adjustments will be necessary."
    The Schirmer further development of the classic racing rim BBS E88 for BMW E90 E92 F80 F82 F87 M2 M3 M4! Available in 18 inch in 3-piece drop center version only. The rim stars are made from a high-strength aluminum forging blank. For optimal weight, the spokes are back milled to the classic design and then CNC drilled


    So yes, you will 100% need to modify your fenders to fit these wheel specs.


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  • Casa de Mesa
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    Does anyone know why the Schirmer spec E88s require spacers?

    From THIS page:
    "ATTENTION: Schirmer spacers are required for front axle."
    I know the E88s are typically used for track-prepped cars, but even then, this seems like a really aggressive fitment without spacers. Are they running widened fenders?

    For reference, my current wheel setup for a staggered setup is pretty ideal (for me) - max size within reason and no rubbing or rolling.

    For comparison:
    Current F: 18x9.5" ET35 || Schirmer F: 18x10" ET 21.5
    Current R: 18x10" ET25 || Schirmer R: 18x10.5" ET 15.5

    In the Schirmer setup without spacers and compared to my current wheels, the fronts poke out an additional 0.78" and 0.62" in the rear. I'm 100% certain these will not fit with out aggressive fender/quarter panel rolling.


    With some of the shots across the bow on this thread, this might sound like a loaded question but I'm asking from a buyer's vantage point.

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  • m3_aaron
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    Originally posted by Epoustouflant View Post

    Yea, they’re very fast on E88s.
    Will you be running a group buy for these E88s again?

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  • Good
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    I placed an order for E88’s over 6 months ago via Supreme Power and they have been sitting at the BBS USA location for the past 3 weeks now. Their excuse has been delays due to a BBS Race lol. I wish I could have participated in the GB, but those sizes were just not it. It would have been nice to be able to choose your desired width/offset, though I can see how that may complicate the Gb. Oh well!
    Last edited by Good; 02-25-2022, 08:07 PM.

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  • M.R.
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    before Christmas there was a 10% discount campaign, so I stocked up on rims now. So no longer interested in the group buy.

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  • Tonggi
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    Originally posted by jet_dogg View Post

    Believe me, I always order and forget. I've been ordering from japan for 20 years so I'm used to this.

    Of my other two sets of rims, one took about 6-7 mos and the other arrived "fast" in 2 months shockingly but I wasn't anticipating either.
    Funny you say that. I look at IG and im like damn those are sick wheels. I need wheels. Then I go oh shit I bought wheels, wtf am I talking about.

    I keep forgetting that I bought wheels, its been that long. I also forgot what offsets I bought, I had to look to remember. I had a whole documentation of offsets and photos. it was nuts.

    To anyone who wants to know. i will gladly share my wheel specs. Its not a secret.

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  • Epoustouflant
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    Originally posted by Sid_E46 View Post
    I couldn't wait for another GB and placed an order for E88s from Shirmer on Sep 19th. They shipped them out on October 1st.
    Yea, they’re very fast on E88s.

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  • Sid_E46
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    I couldn't wait for another GB and placed an order for E88s from Shirmer on Sep 19th. They shipped them out on October 1st.

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  • jet_dogg
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    Originally posted by Tonggi View Post

    its supposed to be any day now. I dont want a tracking #. I want to be surprised like a kid Christmas Morning.
    Believe me, I always order and forget. I've been ordering from japan for 20 years so I'm used to this.

    Of my other two sets of rims, one took about 6-7 mos and the other arrived "fast" in 2 months shockingly but I wasn't anticipating either.

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  • Tonggi
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    Originally posted by jet_dogg View Post

    Schirmer had a bunch in stock last I checked and they ran a sale too, sucks you have to wait. I ordered rims from japan for my other car 6 mos ago and still not here either.
    its supposed to be any day now. I dont want a tracking #. I want to be surprised like a kid Christmas Morning.

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  • jet_dogg
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    Originally posted by Tonggi View Post

    Surprised they got it so fast. I had ordered mine before you had this GB and Im at 11 months now. I hear the same story for everyone else so i am still truly surprised it came that fast.
    Schirmer had a bunch in stock last I checked and they ran a sale too, sucks you have to wait. I ordered rims from japan for my other car 6 mos ago and still not here either.

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